Terminator Salvation
Discussion
Is anybody else as excited as me about the new Terminator film?
I know the last one was crap, in fact, I didn't really like the second one either, but judging from the trailers, this one looks amazing.
He may be an angry, foul mouthed dick at times, but if Christian Bale makes this film work, that will be two failing cinematic legends he has breathed life back into. Obviously it's not all about him, but he seems to be getting the lead role in a lot of films most famous actors would steer well clear off and even making them succesful.
Anyone have any comments or opinons (its PH, so of course) about the upcoming film.
There are two trailers on Youtube, if you have yet to see them.
I know the last one was crap, in fact, I didn't really like the second one either, but judging from the trailers, this one looks amazing.
He may be an angry, foul mouthed dick at times, but if Christian Bale makes this film work, that will be two failing cinematic legends he has breathed life back into. Obviously it's not all about him, but he seems to be getting the lead role in a lot of films most famous actors would steer well clear off and even making them succesful.
Anyone have any comments or opinons (its PH, so of course) about the upcoming film.
There are two trailers on Youtube, if you have yet to see them.
Negative Creep said:
I've heard rumours it will be a PG-13 (or a 12A over here). If it is, then let's face it the film will be dreadful
Ummm Dark knight and Batman Begins were both 12A and they were pretty dark and violent. Times change, film age ratings aren't what they used to be. No doubt, the first terminator, an 18, would now be a 15 or maybe a 12A wih the sex scene taken out.Wikipedia said:
The film will be released in North America on May 22, 2009 in conventional theaters as well as in IMAX, and it could be rated PG-13 by the Motion Picture Association of America, unlike the previous R-rated films. The producers cited the desire to broaden the series to a new audience and the modern leniency of violence in PG-13 films (such as Live Free or Die Hard), but they stated they would not force the rating. McG explained, "We want to make the best film possible. We just don’t care about the rating. We don’t aim for the rating and we’ve been given the freedom by the head of the studio to just make the best picture possible. That’s very, very freeing. We’re just going to make the movie."
claypigeon60 said:
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
I didn't really like the second one
The best bit of that whole movie... the minigun out of the window, thats it.
The first one was really dark, scary and exactly what the terminator should of been throughout the whole movie series, not the stupid, upbeat, daytime, 'I've got my own terminator' gush fest.
Terminators terminate, they do not wound or perform acts of non-violence so that younger kids can watch the film. It was disappointing to see a film company lose the plot to accomodate for a lower age rating.
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
claypigeon60 said:
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
I didn't really like the second one
The best bit of that whole movie... the minigun out of the window, thats it.
The first one was really dark, scary and exactly what the terminator should of been throughout the whole movie series, not the stupid, upbeat, daytime, 'I've got my own terminator' gush fest.
Terminators terminate, they do not wound or perform acts of non-violence so that younger kids can watch the film. It was disappointing to see a film company lose the plot to accomodate for a lower age rating.
Killer2005 said:
Wasnt T2 an 18 rated film?
No, 15, which is the equivalent of a 12 or lower rating today. I don't think 15's are used much these days, it's either 18 or 12A for the more adult films.ETA - T1 was an 18, T2 was a 15, T3 was a 12.
Notice the sequence there? Bit like the Batmans, started of with Tim Burtons dark versions, turned into s
tty, camp versions then reborn back to the darkside again. I can only hope Terminator goes the same way.Edited by M3CHA-MONK3Y on Friday 13th February 10:39
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
claypigeon60 said:
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
I didn't really like the second one
The best bit of that whole movie... the minigun out of the window, thats it.
The first one was really dark, scary and exactly what the terminator should of been throughout the whole movie series, not the stupid, upbeat, daytime, 'I've got my own terminator' gush fest.
Terminators terminate, they do not wound or perform acts of non-violence so that younger kids can watch the film. It was disappointing to see a film company lose the plot to accomodate for a lower age rating.
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
Killer2005 said:
Wasnt T2 an 18 rated film?
No, 15, which is the equivalent of a 12 or lower rating today. I don't think 15's are used much these days, it's either 18 or 12A for the more adult films.ETA - T1 was an 18, T2 was a 15, T3 was a 12.
Notice the sequence there? Bit like the Batmans, started of with Tim Burtons dark versions, turned into s
tty, camp versions then reborn back to the darkside again. I can only hope Terminator goes the same way.Edited by M3CHA-MONK3Y on Friday 13th February 10:39
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
No, 15, which is the equivalent of a 12 or lower rating today. I don't think 15's are used much these days, it's either 18 or 12A for the more adult films.
FWIW, 15 is the most common BBFC film rating, massively outnumbering 18 ratings.Edited by SamHH on Friday 13th February 10:50
Dakkon said:
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
claypigeon60 said:
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
I didn't really like the second one
The best bit of that whole movie... the minigun out of the window, thats it.
The first one was really dark, scary and exactly what the terminator should of been throughout the whole movie series, not the stupid, upbeat, daytime, 'I've got my own terminator' gush fest.
Terminators terminate, they do not wound or perform acts of non-violence so that younger kids can watch the film. It was disappointing to see a film company lose the plot to accomodate for a lower age rating.
I rather liked 3. Had its faults (shoehorning arnie in and having the same basic premise as 2 being the main one), but the ending and general background story was good.
crofty1984 said:
Seems to be a common denominator in the two franchise rebirths you mention...
Dakkon said:
I feel exactly the same and felt slightly cheated because of it, what I also thought was a bit crap was that from the trailers you knew Arnie was a good guy, they could have made loads of suspense around the fact that there were two terminators and then you find out one is a good guy.
Yeah tell me about it. T2 had the potential to be so much more although I know many people who prefer the second one, more action orientated, which is what they want. I suppose it was a sign of the times, with TV and film violence being 'put to the wall' over promoting and glorifying people and children to kill, rape, steal, murder, blah blah blah. Films had to compromise to avoid extensive editing.All change now though, thank God. Film, TV and Computer game violence is regulated but mostly free to be produced uncompromised (mostly i.e. Manhunt). Hopefully this film should combine the dark, intense plot of the first one, with the heavy action of the second. Should be a quality film.
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
Killer2005 said:
Wasnt T2 an 18 rated film?
No, 15, which is the equivalent of a 12 or lower rating today. I don't think 15's are used much these days, it's either 18 or 12A for the more adult films.ETA - T1 was an 18, T2 was a 15, T3 was a 12.
Notice the sequence there? Bit like the Batmans, started of with Tim Burtons dark versions, turned into s
tty, camp versions then reborn back to the darkside again. I can only hope Terminator goes the same way.Edited by M3CHA-MONK3Y on Friday 13th February 10:39
SamHH said:
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
No, 15, which is the equivalent of a 12 or lower rating today. I don't think 15's are used much these days, it's either 18 or 12A for the more adult films.
FWIW, 15 is the most common BBFC film rating, massively outnumbering 18 ratings.Edited by SamHH on Friday 13th February 10:50
As everyones said, i think this film is gonna be awesome, and mainly due to the involvement of the Batman writers, and Christian Bale. He just seems to make roles gritty, when every other actor would try to inject humour, or just be cheesy, he seems to pull it off with his dark mood.
Loved the 1st 2 films, the 3rd was alright entertainment but was not a real Terminator movie, this one is gonna bring the original franchise back to its former glory.
watched the 1st film the other night, never realised how much of a Thriller is was, brilliant film.
Loved the 1st 2 films, the 3rd was alright entertainment but was not a real Terminator movie, this one is gonna bring the original franchise back to its former glory.
watched the 1st film the other night, never realised how much of a Thriller is was, brilliant film.
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
crofty1984 said:
Seems to be a common denominator in the two franchise rebirths you mention...
Dakkon said:
I feel exactly the same and felt slightly cheated because of it, what I also thought was a bit crap was that from the trailers you knew Arnie was a good guy, they could have made loads of suspense around the fact that there were two terminators and then you find out one is a good guy.
Yeah tell me about it. T2 had the potential to be so much more although I know many people who prefer the second one, more action orientated, which is what they want. I suppose it was a sign of the times, with TV and film violence being 'put to the wall' over promoting and glorifying people and children to kill, rape, steal, murder, blah blah blah. Films had to compromise to avoid extensive editing.All change now though, thank God. Film, TV and Computer game violence is regulated but mostly free to be produced uncompromised (mostly i.e. Manhunt). Hopefully this film should combine the dark, intense plot of the first one, with the heavy action of the second. Should be a quality film.
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