T5 teaser
Author
Discussion

DarkMatter

Original Poster:

1,503 posts

261 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
I've removed the T5 box from my '96 Griffith 500, ready to replace it with a secondhand unit I bought several months ago. I don't know which TVR model the secondhand unit came from. I'm aware that if it was from a Tuscan then there is a chance the the 5th gear ratio will be different, but I expected it to be identical in all other respects.

If you want to play 'spot the difference' go straight to the picture below. Otherwise, when you look at the picture, you'll see the top covers are different (I don't meant the gearstick ball joint), and on one box there are some lugs on the side of the box, whereas they have been cut off of the other box which is the one out of my car.

My question is, do I need to cut the lugs off the replacement box, what TVR has it come from, and is it likely to be suitable for my car. Thanks!



Edited by DarkMatter on Friday 13th February 13:43

thermister

97 posts

232 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
why change it,would it not be better to have your own box rebiult

steve-V8s

2,924 posts

278 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
You got it out then.

Top cover looks different in several ways, can you draw a line pointing to the bit you are worried about ? If it is just the top cover in doubt can you not swap them over ?

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
the top cover shouldn`t make any difference as I`m sure there is plenty of clearance between this and the underside of the transmission tunnel, if the lugs were cut off on your box, was it done for any obvious reaon, clearance ect?


DarkMatter

Original Poster:

1,503 posts

261 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
thermister said:
why change it,would it not be better to have your own box rebiult
Possibly. My plan was to sell my old box if the replacement one is better, otherwise I'll get mine rebuilt later and then sell the replacement box. I was also concerned about the cost of a rebuild - it's not always easy to know when to stop replacing parts.

DarkMatter

Original Poster:

1,503 posts

261 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
steve-V8s said:
Top cover looks different in several ways, can you draw a line pointing to the bit you are worried about ? If it is just the top cover in doubt can you not swap them over ?
I've updated the picture in my original post to highlight the lugs. Also, on the top cover of the replacement box there is a small threaded vertical turret whereas the old cover has a horizontal thread in about the same area (which doesn't appear to be used for anything in my car).

clive f said:
the top cover shouldn`t make any difference as I`m sure there is plenty of clearance between this and the underside of the transmission tunnel, if the lugs were cut off on your box, was it done for any obvious reason, clearance etc?
I'm happy to leave the cover as it is, as you say, there appears to be sufficient clearance.

It is the lugs which concern me. As you suggested, the lugs probably need to be removed to allow sufficient clearance. They stick out a bit further than the reversing light switch which got quite close to the chassis as I removed the box.

I'll feel more comfortable about removing the lugs when someone says 'they are all like that' smile

Thanks.

Hoover.

5,993 posts

272 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
When I put a T5 box in to my car... ( Precat with LT77 box now with T5) we used a box out of a Tuscan because gear lever comes up in a different position to that of a T5 box from a griff.

If I used a T5 box from a griff I would have had to have had a retrim

DarkMatter

Original Poster:

1,503 posts

261 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
Thanks Hoover, interesting. That indicates then that my replacement box may not be from a Tuscan. Maybe it's just from a newer Griffith/Chimaera.

Pink_Floyd

900 posts

251 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
My T5 gear box looks identical to the top box in you picture. mine is from a 1998 chim

steve-V8s

2,924 posts

278 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/868724.htm This one seems to have the bits cut off as well. If you Google T5 there are loads of pics but the only ones I found with the cut off bits were yours and the one in the ad above.

I would suggest asking CTS (the gearboxman) he would probabaly know

Aussie John

1,021 posts

261 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
Is the front shaft and spline identical? I have 7 different lengths in a T5 list, also 4 pilot bushes and 5 different splines, cheers, John.

TJC46

2,198 posts

236 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
Ditto to pink floyd my box is exactly the same as the top one in your picture it has all the lugs on the side and the threaded turret on the top. My car is a 1997 chim. Same chassis for both cars so should fit no problem. Maybe some previuos owner/garage cut them off for some obscure reason.

Chimjunkie

2,879 posts

241 months

Friday 13th February 2009
quotequote all
Hi Andy,

Best picture i have is this:



This is from a 1999 Chim400

Jon

DarkMatter

Original Poster:

1,503 posts

261 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
quotequote all
Thanks for all of your help.

It very much looks as though my replacement gearbox is from a later car, but...... on my replacement box the holes in the 'sawn off' gearlever are both the same diameter which is not large enough for the plastic sleeve, only the bolt. Even the photo of the '99 box from Jon (Chimjunkie) shows the larger diameter hole.

Could this mean that with some even later cars the sleeve was dispensed with and just the bolt is used? Or should I drill the gearlever to fit the plastic sleeve?

And one associated question - how easy is it to remove, in situ, the spigot bush from the flywheel?

Thanks.