Paternity Pay Question
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boxster9

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466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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To quote the direct.gov website:

If your average weekly earnings are £90 or more (before tax), Statutory Paternity Pay is paid for one or two consecutive weeks at £117.18 (£123.06 from 5 April 2009) or 90 per cent of your average weekly earnings if this is less.

Does this mean you only get £117.18 for each week of paternity leave? in other words a pay cut. Surely this is not much of an incentive for fathers to take any paternity leave, or haveI misunderstood?

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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you're correct, now stop being some kind of new age hippy and get back to work.

singlecoil

35,825 posts

275 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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boxster9 said:
To quote the direct.gov website:

If your average weekly earnings are £90 or more (before tax), Statutory Paternity Pay is paid for one or two consecutive weeks at £117.18 (£123.06 from 5 April 2009) or 90 per cent of your average weekly earnings if this is less.

Does this mean you only get £117.18 for each week of paternity leave? in other words a pay cut. Surely this is not much of an incentive for fathers to take any paternity leave, or haveI misunderstood?
Why would you want to give fathers an incentive to stay at home?

singlecoil

35,825 posts

275 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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The reason I ask is because a few people I know have been given 90% of their weekly earnings for the two weeks of paternity leave instead of the lower figure quoted,(have their employers misunderstood the rules?!) in which case paternity leave makes more sense.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of people not giving birth would be considerable too.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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boxster9 said:
To quote the direct.gov website:

If your average weekly earnings are £90 or more (before tax), Statutory Paternity Pay is paid for one or two consecutive weeks at £117.18 (£123.06 from 5 April 2009) or 90 per cent of your average weekly earnings if this is less.

Does this mean you only get £117.18 for each week of paternity leave? in other words a pay cut. Surely this is not much of an incentive for fathers to take any paternity leave, or haveI misunderstood?
Get back to doing some fking work.

HTH.

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of the birth will be covered by the NHS in most cases ..which the taxpayer funds anyway.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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boxster9 said:
singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of the birth will be covered by the NHS in most cases ..which the taxpayer funds anyway.
Ah, I forgot, and that's free. FFS.

Si 330

1,306 posts

238 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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My old company used to give all new dads 2 weeks full pay, it's a policy they have had for years.

fullbeem

2,044 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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After just coming back from Paternity leave where I took my two weeks and got £117.18 for each of the 2 weeks I got. I see it as 14 days where I got to spend valuable time with my son in his first days bonding with him and I didnt have to worry about work, no cut into the reamining annual leave I had and actually got paid for taking the time off work.

Granted, when I did get my monthly salary it was reduced by £400 than I usually receive.

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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whoami said:
boxster9 said:
singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of the birth will be covered by the NHS in most cases ..which the taxpayer funds anyway.
Ah, I forgot, and that's free. FFS.
did anyone mention it was free!!!!

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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fullbeem said:
After just coming back from Paternity leave where I took my two weeks and got £117.18 for each of the 2 weeks I got. I see it as 14 days where I got to spend valuable time with my son in his first days bonding with him and I didnt have to worry about work, no cut into the reamining annual leave I had and actually got paid for taking the time off work.

Granted, when I did get my monthly salary it was reduced by £400 than I usually receive.
That's how I see it, but was curious to see how some colleagues were getting 90% of their original pay. Seems like the employer has misinterpreted the rules.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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boxster9 said:
whoami said:
boxster9 said:
singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of the birth will be covered by the NHS in most cases ..which the taxpayer funds anyway.
Ah, I forgot, and that's free. FFS.
did anyone mention it was free!!!!
You get that snout in the trough. Send me the bill.

Get your moneysworth.

FFS



rolleyes

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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whoami said:
boxster9 said:
whoami said:
boxster9 said:
singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of the birth will be covered by the NHS in most cases ..which the taxpayer funds anyway.
Ah, I forgot, and that's free. FFS.
did anyone mention it was free!!!!
You get that snout in the trough. Send me the bill.

Get your moneysworth.

FFS



rolleyes
Grow up

ADJimbo

897 posts

215 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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That sounds about right. Luckilly for me, I get two full weeks paid on full pay - it's a company thing and not a government thing however...

Ben Magoo

547 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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So does that mean SPP is £117 or 90% of normal wage, whichever is greater? now I totally confused and days away from the missus dropping - the direct.gov website is about as clear as mud frown

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

258 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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whoami said:
boxster9 said:
whoami said:
boxster9 said:
singlecoil said:
haworthlloyd1 said:
you could argue why should you get anything at all
I think the fathers should be made to pay, considering what their offspring are going to cost. Just the cost of the birth must be considerable
The cost of the birth will be covered by the NHS in most cases ..which the taxpayer funds anyway.
Ah, I forgot, and that's free. FFS.
did anyone mention it was free!!!!
You get that snout in the trough. Send me the bill.

Get your moneysworth.

FFS



rolleyes
what on earth is your problem with it?

boxster9

Original Poster:

466 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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Ben Magoo said:
So does that mean SPP is £117 or 90% of normal wage, whichever is greater? now I totally confused and days away from the missus dropping - the direct.gov website is about as clear as mud frown
Exactly, I'm getting conflicting info from different sources. According to the website £117 is what you get but some employers have interpreted this as 90% of your usual weekly wage.

westtra

1,542 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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it is completely up the the employer, I was alowed to take 3 days on full pay then as many on the statuatory pay as I wanted. The rules are there a a minimum requirement if the employer wants to be nice and offer more its completely up to them.