This doesn't look good
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CDP

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283 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

Of course the key would is "could"...

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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I always had strong sispicions that Ireland's economic miracle would one day turn very sour. It looks like that day may have arrived.

Bushmaster

27,580 posts

308 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Ah, remember the good old days when the 'Irish Problem' was just what to do about some terrorists...

Martial Arts Man

6,703 posts

215 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Ireland's biggest problem is simply the fact that it is so small and has such a tiny population.

The Irish are not afraid to jump ship and head for a better life (like my father), which will most likey see the country return to its historical norm.

The last decade in Ireland will be seen as one of those blips on a graph by future historians.

I feel for the land of my father.......looks like they'll have to dust off the old carts and start breeding the horses again soon! (used more recently than most outside of Southern Southern Ireland are aware!).


MAM


BigLepton

5,042 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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The greatest problem they have is that public spending has rocketed on the back of the celtic tiger economy and now can't be sustained. I read dole is something like 200 euros a week plus 500 euros a month for your rent or mortgage as an example. Going to be a painful time.

Fittster

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242 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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CDP

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Sunday 15th February 2009
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Not just that but lots of people were piling into Irish banks when their government decided to underwrite all deposits.

What happens if it looks like they can't deliver on that promise?

The German government are currently expected to bail them out. The German people won't like it very much but might just stomach it this time as the price for the Euro but aren't likely to do it for anybody else.

George Soros was already claiming the Euro may not survive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/740410.stm

I'm thinking although it's expensive now it may still be worth buying some gold. And defense shares.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

271 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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CDP said:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

Of course the key would is "could"...
So could the UK

CDP

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Sunday 15th February 2009
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NoelWatson said:
CDP said:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

Of course the key would is "could"...
So could the UK
And the US, hence my comments about gold and defense shares.

Better add tinned food and fallout shelters to that list I suppose.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

271 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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CDP said:
NoelWatson said:
CDP said:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

Of course the key would is "could"...
So could the UK
And the US, hence my comments about gold and defense shares.

Better add tinned food and fallout shelters to that list I suppose.
From the article

"The cost of buying insurance against Irish government bonds rose to record highs on Friday, having almost tripled in a week"

"The cost of insuring Irish debt hit 350 basis points on Friday, meaning that for every £100 of debt it would cost £3.50 to insure against default."

It was 260bps at the end of last week, so I'm not sure why they think that it has tripled in a week. The UK is 151bps and US 87bps






pugwash4x4

7,673 posts

250 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Joke heard in dubln the other day:

"Whats the difference between Ireland and Iceland?"

"One letter and Six months"

The mood there was deicdedly downbeat!

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

271 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I feel sorry for the Germans as this is just another tinpot economy their people are going to have to bank roll again.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I wonder how they'd vote on the Lisbon treaty now?

Gunny Sergeant D

2,248 posts

269 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Anyone care to share a view on the future for the Euro?