Coincidence or a saturday night special effort by motorists?

[gareth.e]

Heres my story..

Cycling home last night about 6.30pm, its pitch black and the small lights on my bike arnt doing anything to help me see in the pitch black alley/pathway...

Suddenly SHIIIT!!

Out of no where a fallen tree appeared blocking the entire path!!

Luckily I reacted quickly and I only hit it at a couple of mph and didn't fall off (I don't know how! My brakes are terrible)


I got off my bike and pretty much threw it over the tree and stepped over it. :P About 20 seconds later just as I was about to set off I see another cyclist appear out of nowhere!

I shout "WATCH OUT!!!!" suddenly he shouts AHHHHHH!!! then BANG! he his the tree as he doesnt stop intime and tumbles onto the tree with his back wheel in the air

I check if he alright... He seemed pretty mad Anyway I start cycling again and then about 200 meters down the path Suddenly "WTF!!!" the path is complete covered in fence pannels with nails sticking out everywhere!!

Again I managed to stop intime. Slighty pissed off this time though.. Then just as I started to kick/throw all the pannels out the path.. Along come the cyclist I just saw smash into the tree.. again I shout something like "BRAKEE!! WATCHOUT!!" he absolutely sts himself!!!! Although manages to stop himself this time

Anyway I check hes alright again and it turns out hes now broken his brakes And he starts ranting about the council not keeping the cycle paths clear and ranting about not salt/gritting the cycle paths while it was snowing..

Inorder to get away form the man getting angry and ranting to himself I make my excuses and leave.. Now ready to take on whatever else is left in store the the remainer of the journey...

I only had to put up with a couple of normal incidents from there..
-Someone pulling into a cycling lane.
-Someone walking out in front of me.
-Someone trying to accelerate past me quickily and then quickly turn in.

Ahh! The Joys Of Cycling!

[singlecoil]

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

[13th]

The moral to your story is "get back in your car"

[ShadownINja]

gareth.e said:

:P

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gareth.e said:

-Someone trying to accelerate past me quickily and then quickly turn in.

That is the action of a fkwit. I've always backed off when I see a cyclist approaching a side road I want to turn left in. It just makes sense.

[Alfa_75_Steve]

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

You don't know what you're talking about.

[CDP]

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

A 4X4 to be precise.

There are some awesome Hummers round these parts with gun turrets on the top.

[singlecoil]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I know a lot more than you, you very silly person.

Edited by singlecoil on Sunday 15th February 13:21

[Alfa_75_Steve]

singlecoil said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I know a lot more than you, dhead

Nice.

Care to explain how I've managed to ride motorbikes for 14 years, with only one minor incident involving another vehicle, or the decade I spent doing fairly serious mileage on push-bikes before that, again without incident?

Have you actually spend any time riding motorbikes on the road? - or did you just make that statement up without any evidence to support it?

[CDP]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I know a lot more than you, dhead

Nice.

Care to explain how I've managed to ride motorbikes for 14 years, with only one minor incident involving another vehicle, or the decade I spent doing fairly serious mileage on push-bikes before that, again without incident?

Have you actually spend any time riding motorbikes on the road? - or did you just make that statement up without any evidence to support it?

Lucky fellow.

[singlecoil]

CDP said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I know a lot more than you, dhead

Nice.

Care to explain how I've managed to ride motorbikes for 14 years, with only one minor incident involving another vehicle, or the decade I spent doing fairly serious mileage on push-bikes before that, again without incident?

Have you actually spend any time riding motorbikes on the road? - or did you just make that statement up without any evidence to support it?

Lucky fellow.

Indeed. If he can't see for himself that cycling in all its forms in dangerous in current road conditions ( I don't mean the weather) then I don't know how to explain it to him.

[metro lover]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04P46zGGSI4

HTH

[308mate]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

singlecoil said:

I'm glad you like it. I would like to do a bit too, but it's just too dangerous. Motor cycling is too. To be even moderately safe on roads these dayy you need to be in a car.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I know a lot more than you, dhead

Nice.

Care to explain how I've managed to ride motorbikes for 14 years, with only one minor incident involving another vehicle, or the decade I spent doing fairly serious mileage on push-bikes before that, again without incident?

Have you actually spend any time riding motorbikes on the road? - or did you just make that statement up without any evidence to support it?

Ooh I see where this going. Excellent.

[Alfa_75_Steve]

It's all about being aware of what is going on around you and riding defensively - which applies to both powered and non-powered 2-wheeled transport.

Same applies when you're in a car, too.

Some people seem to attract accidents - others can drive for decades without ever being involved in one.

I'm not claiming to be some expert driver - but I have never once felt in particular danger from other road users, be it in the car or on 2 wheels. Luck may have a small part to play in this, but awareness of what's going on around you is much more important.

[CDP]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

It's all about being aware of what is going on around you and riding defensively - which applies to both powered and non-powered 2-wheeled transport.

Same applies when you're in a car, too.

Some people seem to attract accidents - others can drive for decades without ever being involved in one.

I'm not claiming to be some expert driver - but I have never once felt in particular danger from other road users, be it in the car or on 2 wheels. Luck may have a small part to play in this, but awareness of what's going on around you is much more important.

Riding my bike to uni' where the cars were passing only a foot or so away at 50mph put me off urban cycling.

[Taita]

metro lover said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04P46zGGSI4

HTH

[singlecoil]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

It's all about being aware of what is going on around you and riding defensively - which applies to both powered and non-powered 2-wheeled transport.

Same applies when you're in a car, too.

Some people seem to attract accidents - others can drive for decades without ever being involved in one.

I'm not claiming to be some expert driver - but I have never once felt in particular danger from other road users, be it in the car or on 2 wheels. Luck may have a small part to play in this, but awareness of what's going on around you is much more important.

Right, so being aware that a car is about to hit you as it overtakes, when cycling along a main road at 20 mph, because they

1) haven't seen you
2) have misjudged the amount of clearance needed
3) are more concerned about the large lorry coming the other way

will make you safe? How does that work then? Do you dismount and get on the verge as every car passes?

It's got nothing to do with how expert you are, or even how aware, but it's got everything to do with the other drivers. I'm glad to hear that you haven't been struck, despite your ill manners, but that has been luck, because when the other guy hasn't seen you, it's got nothing to do with judgement.

[Alfa_75_Steve]

You make me laugh, Singlecoil.

Only one person has displayed ill manners in this thread, and that's you.

Although I see you came back an edited the insult out. Probably a good thing I quoted it, so people can see your true colours.

Accidents will happen, but by riding defensively and assertively, you can minimise your risk.

A large proportion of cyclists only have themselves to blame for the accidents they are involved in, as they don't have any kind of awareness of what is going on around them.

[speedfreaky]

singlecoil said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

It's all about being aware of what is going on around you and riding defensively - which applies to both powered and non-powered 2-wheeled transport.

Same applies when you're in a car, too.

Some people seem to attract accidents - others can drive for decades without ever being involved in one.

I'm not claiming to be some expert driver - but I have never once felt in particular danger from other road users, be it in the car or on 2 wheels. Luck may have a small part to play in this, but awareness of what's going on around you is much more important.

Right, so being aware that a car is about to hit you as it overtakes, when cycling along a main road at 20 mph, because they

1) haven't seen you
2) have misjudged the amount of clearance needed
3) are more concerned about the large lorry coming the other way

will make you safe? How does that work then? Do you dismount and get on the verge as every car passes?

It's got nothing to do with how expert you are, or even how aware, but it's got everything to do with the other drivers. I'm glad to hear that you haven't been struck, despite your ill manners, but that has been luck, because when the other guy hasn't seen you, it's got nothing to do with judgement.

That seems to be a reasonable point of view - you are far less visible on a bike(of any sort) than in a car .

[singlecoil]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

You make me laugh, Singlecoil.

Only one person has displayed ill manners in this thread, and that's you.

Although I see you came back an edited the insult out. Probably a good thing I quoted it, so people can see your true colours.

Accidents will happen, but by riding defensively and assertively, you can minimise your risk.

A large proportion of cyclists only have themselves to blame for the accidents they are involved in, as they don't have any kind of awareness of what is going on around them.

You started it. I put a point of view and instead of responding with your contrary point of view, as you should have, you simply said that 'I didn't know what I was talking about'. That is why you deserved to be called a dhead because instead of sticking to the discussion in hand, you had a go at me. That's what dheads do.

Edited by singlecoil on Sunday 15th February 16:04

[Alfa_75_Steve]

You made a sweeping statement that seemingly is based on 'ooooh, dangerous motorbikes', rather than any solid evidence of you spending many thousands of miles in the saddle.

It's a common response from those with no experience, other than what their mother told them about motorbikes.

Edited by Alfa_75_Steve on Sunday 15th February 16:10