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Republik

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4,525 posts

219 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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More specifically local council planning officer, and especially the admin staff who pre-check application. Is anyone else finding them increasingly difficult and just down right thick as pig st?

Why can they not read scales? Why are they so retarded that they tell me my application is invalid, yet the item they request is clearly marked on the drawings I submitted? I've no idea whether this is a 'delaying' tactic to stall the application but it's starting to fk me off.

Jasandjules

72,560 posts

258 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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That's just Govt workers for you IME...


Busamav

2,954 posts

237 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Just posted back " revised drawings "for an application due to a real picky comment .

The planners seem to have a bit too much time on their hands too , I had to remove a box window from a proposal last week , otherwise it would have been failed .

Republik

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4,525 posts

219 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I agree that they seem to have too much time on their hands. I got pulled up on our title block saying 'do not scale' even though this note has been on the drawing since we created it some 5 years ago. We have had to change it to, 'do no scale for construction purposes'.

Pupp

12,938 posts

301 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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It's not in the interest of the LPA to invalidate potential applications as that involves work without collecting a fee. Just sounds like a mistake (or your drawings need to be a little clearer) smile

HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Republik said:
I agree that they seem to have too much time on their hands. I got pulled up on our title block saying 'do not scale' even though this note has been on the drawing since we created it some 5 years ago. We have had to change it to, 'do no scale for construction purposes'.
WTF???? What a fecking bunch of retards, 'Do not scale' encompasses everything.

We pay these s to come up with that? No wonder local government is such appallingly bad value.

Hobo

6,605 posts

275 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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They will come up with ANY reason not to stick to deadlines, so don't give them any reasons (like you did).

a boardman

1,316 posts

229 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I have had drawings returned due to the do not scale on the drawings.

one thing I have just found out is that they are charging now for them to discharge planning conditions that they imposed on you. (must admit not done a application in a while)

what is the planning fee for, why pay extra.



carmadgaz

3,204 posts

212 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Complete Numpties the lot of them.

We had an application in the Solihull region, I drew up the plans and it was fine till we chased the application and found it was going to be turned down due to the "45deg light rule".

We spent ages with the customer / surveyor and salesman altering the design, they then turned around and approved the original anyway furious

Believe they now charge £25 to discharge the planning conditions.

(Edited when I was reminded what the charge was)

Edited by carmadgaz on Monday 16th February 13:28

Tuna

19,930 posts

313 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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carmadgaz said:
Believe they now charge £25 to discharge the planning conditions.
Our lot charge £85 to discharge, and it's per submission, so if you put things in separately you pay per item.

I get the impression that last year the planners were seriously overworked, and that they have a little more time on their hands now. Whether that helps the application process or not, I couldn't gauge.

Republik

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4,525 posts

219 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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It doesn't seem to help at all. I was told last week that despite having less work, they is a 1 month delay in processing applications. Not sure whether they also have less staff. This could be a possibility.

Republik

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4,525 posts

219 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Oh, as well. Is it legal for them to blanket an area of land as a conservation area, 4 days after we submitted a second planning application (first was rejected) for a development of 13 individually designed houses, and not tell us anything about it? Aren't they legally obliged to inform the owner, who is our client.

Also, we submitted plans for several farm buildings to be converted into houses. There was some issue with the access, which we had a traffic appraisal done for, suggesting a way round the visibility problem. What do the council do? Slap a TPO on a tree and hedge directly in line with the proposed visibility splay, which we had planned to remove.

a boardman

1,316 posts

229 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Tuna said:
carmadgaz said:
Believe they now charge £25 to discharge the planning conditions.
Our lot charge £85 to discharge, and it's per submission, so if you put things in separately you pay per item.
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£25 for domestic
£85 for any other.

so I was told.

MKnight702

3,427 posts

243 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Republik said:
Oh, as well. Is it legal for them to blanket an area of land as a conservation area, 4 days after we submitted a second planning application (first was rejected) for a development of 13 individually designed houses, and not tell us anything about it? Aren't they legally obliged to inform the owner, who is our client.

Also, we submitted plans for several farm buildings to be converted into houses. There was some issue with the access, which we had a traffic appraisal done for, suggesting a way round the visibility problem. What do the council do? Slap a TPO on a tree and hedge directly in line with the proposed visibility splay, which we had planned to remove.
Far be it for me to suggest that the proposed building may have blighted the view from one of the planning committee member's house laugh

_Batty_

12,268 posts

279 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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they have to make a decision within a certain timescale, 4 or 6 weeks, i can't remember which, and they can get fined/the plans passed if they don't. If they are busy, or can't be a$$ed to make a decision within that time scale they will reject it on every spelling mistake/scale error etc etc.
and i find planners as a whole a pain in the ar$e. smile

Busamav

2,954 posts

237 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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_Batty_ said:
they have to make a decision within a certain timescale, 4 or 6 weeks, i can't remember which, and they can get fined/the plans passed if they don't. If they are busy, or can't be a$$ed to make a decision within that time scale they will reject it on every spelling mistake/scale error etc etc.
and i find planners as a whole a pain in the ar$e. smile
Its 8 weeks .


As for the do not scale note , that has been around for some years now with most councils. Mine just says , " Do not scale , note for contractor only "

Republik

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4,525 posts

219 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Planning portal is st as well.

Busamav

2,954 posts

237 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Republik said:
Planning portal is st as well.
ah , now I like the planning portal for completing application forms , I reckon It has saved me a bundle of time .

Republik

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4,525 posts

219 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I do like it. Except I find it unreliable. Its forever kicking me out of the system. Then when I log back in, my list of jobs show up as ones which are of no relevance to me whatsoever.

I'm working on a listed building in Lincoln at the moment, yet it insists I'm doing a Bund in Oxford.

ETA: I'd say its the one app system I hate. I much prefered the old planning portal.

Edited by Republik on Monday 16th February 15:59

clanger

1,087 posts

287 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Planners are there to say no, full stop. Yes decisions have wider implications wink