Lotus Press Car - good/bad idea?
Lotus Press Car - good/bad idea?
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111Rtitanium

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12 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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15,000 mile 57 plate Exige S, 15,000 miles in 18 months in the hands of the press. Back to the factory for a once over and then retailed, probably 10% - 15% cheaper than would otherwise be the case.

What do we think guys, on the one hand I'm thinking walk, nay sprint away but on the other hand I'm thinking Lotus would probably have maintained this impeccably and a few miles on these motors isn't neccessarily a bad thing providing they've not been whacked backwards through the armco somewhere?


wantalotus

386 posts

266 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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get a ECU print out, that will show any engine abuse, but as for clutch, only a drive will tell. The rest should be up to the job surely. A good once over and decent test drive should tell you all you want to know.

Gooby

9,269 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Like any company car it will take a thrashing. My big concern would be a buzz. As suggested, get an ECU printout. I will tell you the details of the car including racing starts and common speeds, it will also tell max engine revs.
If it is clean then I would have a load more confidence in the car.

Then start bartering.

TOENHEEL

4,501 posts

250 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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Its inevitable that its going to of been driven hard but at the end of the day if its got a warranty and seems like a sound car then why not there built to punished! driving

CooperS

4,576 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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TOENHEEL said:
Its inevitable that its going to of been driven hard but at the end of the day if its got a warranty and seems like a sound car then why not there built to punished! driving
Other than the fact you might get a better kept and treat car if you dont go down the ex press car route?


piooly

1,176 posts

248 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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the problem with press cars is that they have probably been ragged from stone cold without getting any warmth into the engine. Thats my only concern.

R.P.M

1,944 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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Walk away.
Buyers market and plenty out there.



aelord

337 posts

248 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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I d be most worried about the state of the gearbox.

Had 2 exiges myself now and can tell you this is a weak point in thrashed cars, it will go.

And you can guarantee that car will have been seriously thrashed, with no sympathy at all.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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piooly said:
the problem with press cars is that they have probably been ragged from stone cold without getting any warmth into the engine. Thats my only concern.
Wouldn't that show up on the ECU print out too? It states engine revs @ oil temp, doesn't it?!

aelord

337 posts

248 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
piooly said:
the problem with press cars is that they have probably been ragged from stone cold without getting any warmth into the engine. Thats my only concern.
Wouldn't that show up on the ECU print out too? It states engine revs @ oil temp, doesn't it?!
yes and doent the limiter stop you before second cam on the Yota before temp is up?

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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Not sure I never tried to get there on mine I don't think! I dont' recall ever reading it had a temperature sensitive rev limiter (or second cam limiter of some kind) but it is possible I guess.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

297 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
piooly said:
the problem with press cars is that they have probably been ragged from stone cold without getting any warmth into the engine. Thats my only concern.
Wouldn't that show up on the ECU print out too? It states engine revs @ oil temp, doesn't it?!
how would you know that the ECU has not been re-set?

MJK 24

5,670 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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My car is an ex Lotus press car and I bought it at a favourable price too.

Lotus used it for 18 months when it was new.

What problems have I had? Absolutely none whatsoever.

If you think that Lotus just obey the standard 9k mile intervals for servicing then you're away with the faries. The car will have been carefully run in (my car had it's 1,000 mile service 2 days after registration) and meticulously maintained.

I contacted Chris Brown (think that's the chap) at the factory who said it'll have been Geo'd before every 'test' and given a through mechanical check after each and every occasion it was sent out.

You may well find that the paint finish is exceptional compared to other cars. Mine has a very deep appearance when cleaned. These days though, it's a bit down on it's luck with stone chips etc.

alunr on Seloc bought the black Exige that was tested on Top Gear against the Apache helicopter and I recall also had no issues with the car at all.

You may even find that you have a particularly 'strong' engine as anyone who's driven my car has said that it goes very very well for 120hp!









Edited by MJK 24 on Wednesday 18th February 13:48

Stu_00

1,529 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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Looks good for a 8/9 year old motor. Shows how classic the Elise design is. Even after that time looks good. Everytime I see S1 / S2 I get excited.

Not many cars look that good and are still in production in the same design.

Going a bit off track but hay ho

TOENHEEL

4,501 posts

250 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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Edited by MJK 24 on Wednesday 18th February 13:48

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Hasnt aged in the slightest looks great fella!!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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Scuffers said:
TonyHetherington said:
piooly said:
the problem with press cars is that they have probably been ragged from stone cold without getting any warmth into the engine. Thats my only concern.
Wouldn't that show up on the ECU print out too? It states engine revs @ oil temp, doesn't it?!
how would you know that the ECU has not been re-set?
Good question - does it not show engine hours also? I seem to recall mine did? And although it's hours, not miles, it should tally up relatively to similar cars.

Nothing's full proof, but when it's the ECU print out that Lotus use when it comes to warranties, it's that which is wise to get before you invest.

wantalotus

386 posts

266 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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aelord said:
TonyHetherington said:
piooly said:
the problem with press cars is that they have probably been ragged from stone cold without getting any warmth into the engine. Thats my only concern.
Wouldn't that show up on the ECU print out too? It states engine revs @ oil temp, doesn't it?!
yes and doent the limiter stop you before second cam on the Yota before temp is up?
It does control engine speed at low coolant temp, limiting to around 4k I think. When an coolant temp is displayed on the dash it relaxes it's grip. Also limits after reaching max RPM(8500???) for a time period, to stop repeated over revving. But cannot protect against 'buzzing' as some will painfully testify!!!!