"Secret plan" to increase council tax
"Secret plan" to increase council tax
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BAHN-STORMA

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2,732 posts

219 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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But the Government has sales data; both the Inland Revenue and Land Registry are advised of all property sales.

confused

NDA

25,531 posts

254 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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My Council Tax is up by 5.5% this year - at the same time services have dropped by 50%.

Many local councils are suffering from a pensions deficit due to their offshore investment plans (that's using our money obviously) going pear shaped. So we have to pay for that to ensure that they all get their pensions, we wouldn't want them to suffer like the rest of the population would we?

loafer123

16,662 posts

244 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Rightmove would be providing additional data for the AVM's (Automatic Valuation Models) used by the Valuation Agency - things like number of bedrooms, bathrooms, receptions etc.

NDA

25,531 posts

254 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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So if you move a bit of stud wall around you pay more to have your rubbish collected?

Yep, that makes sense.

Councils - gotta love them.

loafer123

16,662 posts

244 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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NDA said:
Councils - gotta love them.
It isn't the councils in this case, but Central Government.

The councils will charge based on the bandings, but the government is the one who would commission the revaluation.


Silverbullet767

11,233 posts

235 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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What council tax rises??

Welcome to Scotland.

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HarryW

16,009 posts

298 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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No secret in the fact that most councils have been forced to increase their direct take by at least 2-4x inflation year on year over the last 10 years. This has been due to central government reducing its contribution to them or by increasing the councils responsibility to fund previous government roles.
Bottom line more tax paid by you and me, although the increases away from the labour heartlands have strangely been many fold greater confused kunts.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Silverbullet767 said:
What council tax rises??

Welcome to Scotland.

laugh
Until the torys get in and try to screw over labour areas

davidjpowell

18,689 posts

213 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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its absoloute rubbish as usual. Rightmove us useful, because it can give detail that the stamp office does not have when a house sells, such as no of bedrooms, and even has photo's and time on market etc.

A revaluation does not mean automaticaly that everyone pays more. As the overall cumalitive 'value' of the properties increase, expect to see the banding change, and the multiplier reduced.

The people who would be most hurt are those who have extended their homes. Currently the banding is not increased (if appopriate) until after the house is next sold. Those people would after a re-valuation have their improvements valued.

As is stands houses are assessed on 2001 values - this makes it very difficult to judge whether a house is in the correct band or not, and will only become more so over the forthcoming years.

Daily Mail also likes to make a big thing of how houses with views, next to golf courses, garden sheds can have the value increased in the future. This is no different to now, where if it makes a difference to how much someone would pay for a house, it would be considered. (A garden shed I suspect is not going to make much difference).

loafer123

16,662 posts

244 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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davidjpowell said:
A revaluation does not mean automaticaly that everyone pays more. As the overall cumalitive 'value' of the properties increase, expect to see the banding change, and the multiplier reduced.
You are right in theory.

In practise, given all too lengthy experience of this government, do you really think they would miss a chance to access more tax?

davidjpowell

18,689 posts

213 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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to be fair I can easily imagine the treasury deciding to lets just make a bit while we are at it.

But they are less likely to take advatange on council tax, - they will just make it up on the business rates side.

Jasandjules

72,559 posts

258 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Govt tries to screw more money out of us shock...

catso

16,369 posts

296 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Our local paper recently announced a 'Council tax rise cut' apparently due to the tough times that people are experiencing they have cut the intended rise to help us..... rolleyes

SimonV8ster

12,991 posts

257 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Its just to supplement exisitng information and make sure that the data that is kept is up to date. Why not use third party data ? Saves going out and collecting it themselves and paying extra staff wages.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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catso said:
Our local paper recently announced a 'Council tax rise cut' apparently due to the tough times that people are experiencing they have cut the intended rise to help us..... rolleyes
Take cover....

Bullst spin...

Orb the Impaler

1,881 posts

219 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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What I suggest is a really, really fair system, since the resources used by a property are only really dependent upon the number of occupants.

How about a system where the tax is levied on a personal level?

Seems logical to me. But oh no! People wanted it this way... rolleyes

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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If Gordon put public and private pensions on an equal footing, he could cut Council Tax by 40%...

The incompetent idiot killed private pensions, so it's the decent thing to do...

ShadownINja

79,982 posts

311 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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As an aside are we to boycott Right Move?

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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I pay only 25% less in council tax than the family of 4 a couple of doors down, despite them using 4x the council services I do.

Yep, sounds fair to me.

Edited by Parrot of Doom on Friday 20th February 15:05