Moon landings, real on not?
Discussion
Now I have been talking about this today and specifically the first man on the moon. Some pretty good convincers out on the net for this being a fake by NASA for the space race against russia. Have a read for yourself and let me know your thoughts. The camera film surviving massive temp extreems yet they cannot now, caspsule hatch size too small for suits, van Allen radiation belt, shadows on camera and light sources???
Lots of articles against these claims too - classic internet (and pre-internet) conspiracy theory stuff...
My view.. we went.. although still awaiting the pictures from the recent Jap probe that orbited the moon last year that was meant to have the resolution to photograph the landers that were left behind...
Mythbusters did a good program debunking some of the theories too - esp the ones about the photographs...
My view.. we went.. although still awaiting the pictures from the recent Jap probe that orbited the moon last year that was meant to have the resolution to photograph the landers that were left behind...
Mythbusters did a good program debunking some of the theories too - esp the ones about the photographs...
tuscan_al said:
Now I have been talking about this today and specifically the first man on the moon. Some pretty good convincers out on the net for this being a fake by NASA for the space race against russia. Have a read for yourself and let me know your thoughts. The camera film surviving massive temp extreems yet they cannot now, caspsule hatch size too small for suits, van Allen radiation belt, shadows on camera and light sources???
Not again...Film cameras. The ones in the separation ring? The ones they lost several of? the ones inside thick multi-layer boxes with Pyrex windows? Not exactly rocket science.
Capsule hatch size too small? b
ks. Try watching some film/video of the entire Apollo missions. Van Allen radiation belts? Travelling through them at a phenomenal speed. Yes, there is hot radiation there, no it isn't instantly lethal. "Oooh radiation, that'll kill you instantly".
What shadows on cameras and light sources? Are we talking about the photos of the back of the LM that is "mysteriously" illuminated with what is actually backscatter from the lunar surface.
Now here's some for you.
The retro-reflector they left on the moon, which even to this day, they are bouncing lasers off.
The fact that thousands of radio amateurs tracked both the capsule on-route the the moon, and on the moon itself.
The ease of which the Russians could have disproved it all should they have wanted, gaining massive political brownie points.
The fact that the REALLY difficult bit is getting a Saturn V off the ground into orbit, not getting something from orbit to the moon, down to the moon and back. That bit is comparatively trivial.
any more?
Jimbeaux said:
This has been done on PH so often that any further discussion is a waste of time and will hopefully be locked! Yes they went to the moon and every conspiracy to the contrary has been oft shot down. And yes, anybody who thinks it was a fake is an absolute idiot, full stop. carry on.
Not touchy about the subject then ? 
Trikster said:
Lots of articles against these claims too - classic internet (and pre-internet) conspiracy theory stuff...
My view.. we went.. although still awaiting the pictures from the recent Jap probe that orbited the moon last year that was meant to have the resolution to photograph the landers that were left behind...
Mythbusters did a good program debunking some of the theories too - esp the ones about the photographs...
Yep been waiting for that too!My view.. we went.. although still awaiting the pictures from the recent Jap probe that orbited the moon last year that was meant to have the resolution to photograph the landers that were left behind...
Mythbusters did a good program debunking some of the theories too - esp the ones about the photographs...
hot metal said:
Jimbeaux said:
This has been done on PH so often that any further discussion is a waste of time and will hopefully be locked! Yes they went to the moon and every conspiracy to the contrary has been oft shot down. And yes, anybody who thinks it was a fake is an absolute idiot, full stop. carry on.
Not touchy about the subject then ? Not really, just done to death already. Running a cheese grater over my tongue might be preferable.Jimbeaux said:
hot metal said:
Jimbeaux said:
This has been done on PH so often that any further discussion is a waste of time and will hopefully be locked! Yes they went to the moon and every conspiracy to the contrary has been oft shot down. And yes, anybody who thinks it was a fake is an absolute idiot, full stop. carry on.
Not touchy about the subject then ? Not really, just done to death already. Running a cheese grater over my tongue might be preferable.
Of course they went, if the clever people in the USSR at the time didn't (and still can't) show it was faked all those years ago or even now and if they could they would have so much to gain so how can the people on the internet who do not under stand basic scientific principals claim this and that.
There is so much supporting evidence. Such as the laser reflector which they uses to measure the distance between the earth and the moon. The radio ham operators that tracked the radio signals from space. The multiple light sources but there was only one shadow from each object if go to a football stadium with multiple light sources you get lots of shadows etc
And then if you believe they did fake it how much did they fake? Could they orbit the earth at the time or was that still to much or they could get to the moon but not stop there etc
There is so much supporting evidence. Such as the laser reflector which they uses to measure the distance between the earth and the moon. The radio ham operators that tracked the radio signals from space. The multiple light sources but there was only one shadow from each object if go to a football stadium with multiple light sources you get lots of shadows etc
And then if you believe they did fake it how much did they fake? Could they orbit the earth at the time or was that still to much or they could get to the moon but not stop there etc
I believe this site lays the matter to rest once and for all:
http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_la...
http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_la...
Can someone move this to P&P. Then file under topics that need to be banned, along with the conveyor belt on a plane thread.tuscan_al said:
Now I have been talking about this today and specifically the first man on the moon. Some pretty good convincers out on the net for this being a fake by NASA for the space race against russia. Have a read for yourself and let me know your thoughts. The camera film surviving massive temp extreems yet they cannot now, caspsule hatch size too small for suits, van Allen radiation belt, shadows on camera and light sources???
Thats all very well Al, but WTF has this got to do with cars? 
Jimbeaux said:
This has been done on PH so often that any further discussion is a waste of time and will hopefully be locked! Yes they went to the moon and every conspiracy to the contrary has been oft shot down. And yes, anybody who thinks it was a fake is an absolute idiot, full stop. carry on.
Ditto. Try the search.
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