Fog Signs on the Motorway - Who Controls Them
Fog Signs on the Motorway - Who Controls Them
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tonyrec

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3,984 posts

275 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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Someone asked me this the other day and i thought that it would be a good informative thread, sorry if you already know the answer.

Sometimes you see the 'Fog' signs illuminated on certain stretches of Motorway and it does get a bit annoying when its during the day and theres bright sunshine and no Fog in sight.

Obviously the Police in the Motorway control room can operate them but on these occasions they are controlled by some other source and also overide the Police Controlroom.

Does anyone know how they are controlled and why they sometimes come on when it seems unnecessary?

cptsideways

13,783 posts

272 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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Automated systems: Two white bazooka like things that point at each other, often at foggy zones like dips & below hills etc. Cant think where I saw them last but often see them.

I assume they dont work very reliably

tonyrec

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3,984 posts

275 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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Lol, well i guess thats the end of that thread!

You are correct in every respect.

ledfoot

777 posts

272 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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Motorways have weather sensors beside the road, and these detect poor visibility. Presumably when the visibility is below a certain level it triggers the Fog warning signs.

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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which leads to a lack of respect for the road signs so when the police really need them (for accidents etc) people will think "well its bollocks most of the time so it must be bollocks now"

All part and parcel of the country going to sh!t

^Slider^

2,874 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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cptsideways said:
Automated systems: Two white bazooka like things that point at each other, often at foggy zones like dips & below hills etc. Cant think where I saw them last but often see them.

I assume they dont work very reliably




Back Scatter guns i think they are called, they detect the amount of light that is reflected back to them. usually just off the hard shoulder i think, I suppose heavy pollution at low height levels trigger them.

Gareth

edited to add: Dam everyone replied while i was writing mine!!

>> Edited by ^Slider^ on Monday 3rd November 18:12

tonyrec

Original Poster:

3,984 posts

275 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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gh0st said:
which leads to a lack of respect for the road signs so when the police really need them (for accidents etc) people will think "well its bollocks most of the time so it must be bollocks now"

All part and parcel of the country going to sh!t


Thats why i wanted to make sure that everyone was aware that its not always the fault of the Police .

206xsi

49,326 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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Tony - you're a veritable fountain of wisdom, as ever

SpudGunner

472 posts

279 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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He's certainly full of something

Well I must admit to have learnt something there. I was always driving along cursing dozy bib for getting them put on and then forgetting to get them turned off but now I know...

TJMurphy

239 posts

283 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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That was interesting, I always assumed it was some dozy controller somewhere who'd turned them on and then went home for the day. Anyone got a picture of one of these things?
Also, while Tonyrec is explaining bits of road side furniture what are the gray boxes on the sides of motorways which have what looks like some tubes / pipes on top, usually pointing along the direction of travel? They're not cameras but are they some other sort of sensors? Not many of them around, I can only think of one on the M25 NW section and one somewhere (IIRC) on the M4, Eastbound somewhere west of Reading.

tonyrec

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3,984 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Thats exactly what i was talking about.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

290 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Particularly handy driver information signs on the M4 this morning.

M4 Closed J1-J3

Was it bollocks!

206xsi

49,326 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Plotloss said:
Particularly handy driver information signs on the M4 this morning.

M4 Closed J1-J3

Was it bollocks!
Was it a dozy operator or are there new sensors which detected the traffic wasn't moving and so decided it was closed?

t-c

198 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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At one time (and I am going back a few years now) the Fog warns on the A329(M)/M4 used to be activated by Boeing 747's departing from Heathrow.

Apparently the engine frequency was exactly the same as we used on the hand held units to activate them by remote control.

Just a bit of useless information.

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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I seem to remember that these sensors can also be fooled by a vehicle stopping on the hard shoulder in the wrong place.

millasur

55 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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how do you lot know that? lol. learn something new eveyr day well a few things now i'm at uni. but always helpful lol

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

271 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Personally if it is foggy, I don't really see the need for a sign to tell me. If I can hardly see the car in front, that is usually a good indicator that something is not right.

Are these signs to remind numpties to turn on their foglights and slow down....

icamm

2,153 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Fat Audi 80 said:
Are these signs to remind numpties to turn on their foglights and slow down....

No. They are to remind them to turn OFF all lights and speed up

>> Edited by icamm on Tuesday 4th November 12:39

r32

399 posts

272 months

Wednesday 5th November 2003
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Slightly OT, but what on earth does 'EBD Ahead' mean? This was what the signs on the M60 said this morning!

206xsi

49,326 posts

268 months

Wednesday 5th November 2003
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r32 said:
Slightly OT, but what on earth does 'EBD Ahead' mean? This was what the signs on the M60 said this morning!
Extra bored driver - stuck behind 3 lanes of traffic moving at 30mph