Black Exige S1 Type R

[Rich S]

There was a very smokey looking S1 Type R on trade plates on the Halesowen bypass this Sunday ....

So own up who's was it ?

I would love to see some detail

Rich

[Scuffers]

this one?

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/SALES/780345.htm

[Rich S]

it certainly looked very much like it !
very nice made my grey S2 look very un loved
what does it weigh , and how much is it kicking out ?

[Scuffers]

Rich S said:

it certainly looked very much like it !
very nice made my grey S2 look very un loved
what does it weigh , and how much is it kicking out ?

no idea, and no idea!

I just guessed that it was that one...

[bogie]

one would think those 2 pertinent pieces of information were important to put into the advert ...I would myself

a moderate guess would be about 820Kg and 300bhp any less weight or more bhp would be a bonus for that spec and if it were worse than either of those Id be asking why

the only thing about the price, well youd have to really want an Exige to pay the premium - there are c couplf other other SC hondas for sale over on SELOC, one with even more trick bits and a MSC/Link up car, the other a Sinclaires conversion, both under warranty, both for £5K less

[bjc388]

Black S1 Exige with S/c honda ... yum yum !!!

[Pesky]

bogie said:

one would think those 2 pertinent pieces of information were important to put into the advert ...I would myself

a moderate guess would be about 820Kg and 300bhp any less weight or more bhp would be a bonus for that spec and if it were worse than either of those Id be asking why

the only thing about the price, well youd have to really want an Exige to pay the premium - there are c couplf other other SC hondas for sale over on SELOC, one with even more trick bits and a MSC/Link up car, the other a Sinclaires conversion, both under warranty, both for £5K less

Pure Lotus sold that car within 1 week of advertising it. They keep the advert "going" as it directs folk to their website, & their current stocklist

IMHO people get totally hung up on headline bhp figures, which in reality are not important, unless you like "pub talk". It's easy to "get an extra 5bhp plus" just by tinkering with tyre pressures on a rolling road*, & unless you're racing, 5 to 10 bhp difference around the 300bhp mark, won't make any significance on track. Scuffers or Randy driving a 250bhp Elise/Exige are likely to pi$$ rings around us mere mortals on any track, even if we had 325bhp available. Having a car properly set up in the handling/braking depts, & driver skill, are far more relevent in the real world.

• I appreciate that TDI don't use a rolling road as such, but unless every car is dyno'd there, what use are comparisons of max figures?

All in my opinion of course, hence I won't disclose what power/torque my car was measured at during mapping.

[Scuffers]

that being the case, it's may well not have been that one?

Only other Black one I know is Carsten's, and AFAIK, that's in his garage...

[Pesky]

Scuffers said:

that being the case, it's may well not have been that one?

Only other Black one I know is Carsten's, and AFAIK, that's in his garage...

Simon

Pure Lotus are in Wetherby (N. Yorks), so they may well have sold it to a Midlands location. Con McL & AndyD, who both live within striking distance of Halesoen, also have black s/c Exiges although I would doubt if it were either them that was spotted by the OP.

Edited by Pesky on Sunday 22 February 20:21

[bogie]

I agree Pesky ...hence why I said "any more is a bonus"

it would just be nice to see the add say something like "made 305bhp at xxx rolling road" and weighs xxx kg as one persons version of "lightening" is different to another ....just so you could compare with similar ads and least know its in the ballpark for what it should be

looked like a nice car anyway and they obviously had no problems selling it.....

[Pesky]

Hey, no probs Bogie

Hope to see you back in a Lotus in the not too distant future - appears now is a good time to be picking them up at good prices.......;)

[Rich S]

Whilst I appreciate the vagaries of rolling roads , do any of you knowledgeable chaps know how much (ish) BHP the top S/C hondas are pushing out ?

is this on stock internals ?

or could you point me in the right direction to find out please.

Also , who are the lead protagonists on the Audi conversion front ?

Cheers

[Rich S]

Whilst I appreciate the vagaries of rolling roads , do any of you knowledgeable chaps know how much (ish) BHP the top S/C hondas are pushing out ?

is this on stock internals ?

or could you point me in the right direction to find out please.

Also , who are the lead protagonists on the Audi conversion front ?

Cheers

[bogie]

Rich S said:

Whilst I appreciate the vagaries of rolling roads , do any of you knowledgeable chaps know how much (ish) BHP the top S/C hondas are pushing out ?

is this on stock internals ?

or could you point me in the right direction to find out please.

Also , who are the lead protagonists on the Audi conversion front ?

Cheers

www.dyno-plot.co.uk for many,many examples

SC Honda - very base spec on a rolling road "at the wheels" will be in the 250 range up ...whereas "at the flywheel" top spec 2.3L SC will be near 400bhp ...and everything in between

as alluded too - make sure to compare like with like spec wise, and "rolling road" wise - some measure at the wheels only, some at the hubs, some calculate flywheel power from either hubs/wheels etc etc ...most confusing if you dont know what you are looking at....

[bogie]

Pesky said:

Hey, no probs Bogie

Hope to see you back in a Lotus in the not too distant future - appears now is a good time to be picking them up at good prices.......;)

hopefully later this year, just another operation to go and will be back on track .....soooo tempting with so many nice spec cars out there now, 4 years ago when I had mine done it was the 10th SC Honda one in the UK, now there must be dozens out there !

[coxy79]

Rich S said:

Whilst I appreciate the vagaries of rolling roads , do any of you knowledgeable chaps know how much (ish) BHP the top S/C hondas are pushing out ?

is this on stock internals ?

or could you point me in the right direction to find out please.

Also , who are the lead protagonists on the Audi conversion front ?

Cheers

A friend of mine just had a very impressive result from his SC Exige with some new cams, Scuffers remapped it last week and the results look awesome.
dynoplot

As for the Audi conversion, the main protagonist is AFAIK Bernard Scouse. His company is called Auto-Teknix
http://www.auto-teknix.co.uk/index.html

[Ultrasound]

coxy79 said:

Rich S said:

Whilst I appreciate the vagaries of rolling roads , do any of you knowledgeable chaps know how much (ish) BHP the top S/C hondas are pushing out ?

is this on stock internals ?

or could you point me in the right direction to find out please.

Also , who are the lead protagonists on the Audi conversion front ?

Cheers

A friend of mine just had a very impressive result from his SC Exige with some new cams, Scuffers remapped it last week and the results look awesome.
dynoplot

As for the Audi conversion, the main protagonist is AFAIK Bernard Scouse. His company is called Auto-Teknix
http://www.auto-teknix.co.uk/index.html

Impressive? I'll say, it's stating 615bhp!

[bogie]

LOL ...that 615bhp would be the Civic drag car running on methanol then

[Ultrasound]

Was wondering, these Hondas are good but...

[bogie]

Ultrasound said:

Was wondering, these Hondas are good but...

I cant see that coming with 1 year track use unlimited mile warranty somewhow