removing the mirror doorswitch
removing the mirror doorswitch
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markh1

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2,846 posts

238 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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The passenger side door will not open from the outside and im pretty sure its the button under the mirror that is the problem. However I cant remove it. I have taken the mirror assembly off but can't get the button out, it will neither unscrew of pull out. I have not used excessive force as i'm afraid of breaking the mirror. Any one got any ideas?

markh1

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2,846 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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anyone??tumbleweed

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Sorry Mate, Im not sure how you remove that button, but have you checked the wiring inside the door, behind the door card? Thats where the problem usually happens. Also as you have the mirror off, have you pulled the wires up through the hole in the door to make sure they are all connected properly.

Byker28i

91,640 posts

246 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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When I did mine there was a nut inside the mirror on the switch that needed to be undone, i.e. the switch is held in by a flat nut.

Also - don't forget to add the nut to the wiring before you solder it all back together again...

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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I have checked the wires (pulled them up through the door) and checked the connections, they seem fine. I can't work out how to take the mirror apart, there is a tiny screw on the bottom but that does not seem to release anything. I have also tried levering it apart but dont want to try to hard as the plastic is quite soft.

Alistair H.

1,173 posts

300 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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I seem to remember after prising glass off, there are four screws at the four diagonal positions 10,2, 4, and 8.

Then the back section of the mirror housing falls away, giving you access. - After all this though...my problem was not the switch, but the wiring, as the connector inside the door was damaged.

DaveW500TVR

29 posts

268 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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I have the same problem and the mirror is solid, it doesn't seem to have any movement in it whatsoever other than with the drivers button!

Might be a bit of a numpty question but how do you prise the mirror off without breaking it?

Is it an upward pressure that needs to be applied or a straight pull, does it matter what position the mirror is in or should it be as far over to the nearside or top of the housing as possible, etc, etc?

Guess it's quite straightforward if you have a broken mirror?

Cheers

Dave


RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Push the glass in towards the car, as far as it will go. Then you'll have enough room to get your fingers around the back of the glass (furthest away from the car)

Gently prize it off

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DaveW500TVR

29 posts

268 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Thanks for that, I'll give it a go this weekend.

Sounds a bit like one of those 'grit your teeth' jobs which once done is ever so easy the second time around.

Cheers

Dave

DaveW500TVR

29 posts

268 months

Monday 9th March 2009
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Well I did it without breaking the glass!

The mirror has a reasonably rigid backing plate that has 4 plastic pins that press fit into a mounting ring connected to the motor adjustment.

I found it best to attack it from both ends moving the mirror from one extreme to the other and gradually working the pins out. I think that the locking ring mechanism on the Chim is much better IMHO. Frankly it looks as though this could be retrofitted???

It doesn't really help with access to the push button though as it's mounted well back in the mirror body behind the metal framing to the mirror. It does however give access to the various mirror cover mounting screws and by undoing them just about gives enough wriggle room to get the mirror trim off which then gives you some access to the button!

The little screw underneath referred to by Markh1 (exposed when you turn the mirror 90 degrees out to the car) does in fact hold the mirror trim in place but it is also held in by an integral spring leg that hooks into the metal framing, so you can't get the trim off without taking the mirror apart as described above!

Cheers

Dave

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Thanks for writing up your experiences Dave! I will have to give that a go this weekend!

jonbarrett

800 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I'm about to replace my wing mirror door switch, would you like me to photograph the process and post it here? The switch has arrived but I'm waiting for some small wires, connectors and shrink tube which should arrive Wednesday.

I've already taked a look in the mirror and I've decided to break the wiring to the switch and insert two tiny spade connectors. This means the switch can be soldered on the bench and plugged in easily.

The switches and protective covers came from RS Components and the remaining parts from Vehicle Wiring Products.

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Jon,

It's always useful to have pictures, i'm sure there will be others that will find pictures of what the mirrors look like insde useful.

amazon

3,704 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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jonbarrett said:
I'm about to replace my wing mirror door switch, would you like me to photograph the process and post it here?
yes Please! I have to do the one on my Chimaera, haven't a clue where to start! rolleyes

smile

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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amazon said:
jonbarrett said:
I'm about to replace my wing mirror door switch, would you like me to photograph the process and post it here?
yes Please! I have to do the one on my Chimaera, haven't a clue where to start! rolleyes

smile
I thought that cerb and chim mirrors were different? Or do they come apart the same?

amazon

3,704 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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markh1 said:
amazon said:
jonbarrett said:
I'm about to replace my wing mirror door switch, would you like me to photograph the process and post it here?
yes Please! I have to do the one on my Chimaera, haven't a clue where to start! rolleyes

smile
I thought that cerb and chim mirrors were different? Or do they come apart the same?
Guess we're about to find out! wink

But seriously, I would have said they are the same, but I haven't checked. Cos' they operate in the same way - I figured they wouldn't have been re-invented? That is probably a very stupid thing to say.......... rolleyes


Olly

2,174 posts

313 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Another thread here here on it, including pics of the buttons I used.....

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Olly said:
Another thread here here on it, including pics of the buttons I used.....
That was the thread I started last summer....I'm obviously not that bothered about having passengers hehe

Byker28i

91,640 posts

246 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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jonbarrett said:
I've already taked a look in the mirror and I've decided to break the wiring to the switch and insert two tiny spade connectors. This means the switch can be soldered on the bench and plugged in easily.
I thought about that but didn't want the risk of further dirty connectors int he future so I soldered the wires together with heatshrink tubing over the top

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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Chaps,

Have finally got round to taking the wing mirror to bits. I will post up pictures soon.

It was the button at fault, one of the wires had corroded and it had broken off the switch.

I am trying to source a replacement switch and have found the following....

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAct...

But being a complete numpty when it comes to electrics I don't know if they are compatible. Please could someone advise if they are or not?

Cheers,
Mark