Is the 4.2 worth it over the 4.0?
Is the 4.2 worth it over the 4.0?
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BigNige

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2,584 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Tensioner & Nikaseal issues aside, is the 4.2 V8 worth seeking out over the 4.0 in say an XK8?

Triple7

4,015 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Yes, because you get the extra 30BHP, but more importantly the newer 6 Speed ZF gearbox. Plus a fresher car with the facelift.


jonboy07

220 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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true, but the 4.0 is still a good buy if its been looked after, its just a question of what you want and what you have to spend

bigdavy

1,085 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Yes because the nikasil issue doesn't affect the 4.2.

I also believe the tensioner issue hasn't raised its head in the 4.2's either, but i'm happy to be corrected on that one.

P700DEE

1,181 posts

252 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Not necessarily. Nikasil blocks should outlast steel smile the 6 speed on the R is not better than the five speed according to some who have had both. If you get a pre March 2001 car then you still pay £185 tax instead of £400. The 4.2 is more powerful and more economic. If you want an XK then the 4.2 is probably a better buy than the 4.0 but I would not use that as my sole purchasing decision.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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bigdavy said:
Yes because the nikasil issue doesn't affect the 4.2.

I also believe the tensioner issue hasn't raised its head in the 4.2's either, but i'm happy to be corrected on that one.
IIRC the metal bodied tensioner was fitted at the same time as the 4.2 engine was introduced, and was only available as a retro fit upgrade on earlier 3.2s and 4.0s some time later - possibily 2005?

There were a small number of substantially pissed - off peeps who had already forked out for a whole chain and mk 2 tensioner upgrade on early cars, only to be told sometime later that the mk 2 tensioners had started failing too and they needed to have them removed and the metal bodied ones fitted.

Halb

53,012 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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P700DEE said:
Not necessarily. Nikasil blocks should outlast steel smile the 6 speed on the R is not better than the five speed according to some who have had both. If you get a pre March 2001 car then you still pay £185 tax instead of £400. The 4.2 is more powerful and more economic. If you want an XK then the 4.2 is probably a better buy than the 4.0 but I would not use that as my sole purchasing decision.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_172916

It is now 1st MArch 2006...which means to have the new shape Jag you would have to pay GB £400...unless you get one of those journalist ones.

G_T

16,163 posts

212 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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At the risk of sounding like a boy racer; you can easily squeeze an extra 30bhp out of the 4.0 XJR. Just ask NormanD he's on about a million-billion horsepower on a standard gearbox.

I would love the 4.2, it's quite clearly a step forward but that's not what I want, I like the fact my engine is nikasil, my panels are steel, my switchgear is looking increasingly archaic and if I put a private plate on it I can play "guess the decade of production"...

I would argue the X308 XJR is/will be a classic but I reckon reliablity issues have lost a lot of fans. Not me though. Not yet at least!

And in terms of MPG... Come on... there's about £8000 difference in cost between lower ends of both models and the road tax has already been covered. You're not really going to save money. You're just going to put it in the coffers in a more long winded way.

If my engine pops I'm going to try squeezing a 4.2 in there though.. biggrin








a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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G_T said:
At the risk of sounding like a boy racer; you can easily squeeze an extra 30bhp out of the 4.0 XJR. Just ask NormanD he's on about a million-billion horsepower on a standard gearbox.
In the case of the "Million Billion" BHP crowd, the 5 speed box might be better. MB continued to use that box for high torque apps even after they'd brought out newer more gear ones. The SLR uses the 5 speed box.

Shar2

2,255 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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I know i've mentioned this before, but Paramount have managed to tweak quite a bit more power out of my 4.0ltr XK8, now more than most 4.2ltr XK8's. 4.2ltr engines seem to be more tuned from the start so the increases haven't been quite as good after being remapped.

NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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G_T said:
If my engine pops I'm going to try squeezing a 4.2 in there though.. biggrin
We can do that for you

G_T

16,163 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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NormanD said:
G_T said:
If my engine pops I'm going to try squeezing a 4.2 in there though.. biggrin
We can do that for you
Well if and when it goes you'll be the first to be called. It will hopefully be a while yet mind!