Foreigners to become Chief Constables ?!
Foreigners to become Chief Constables ?!
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streaky

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19,311 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Just heard UK government proposals to allow foreigners to become CCs. WTF is that all about? (apart from enabling Bliar and Junket to bring more of their beloved US politico-policemen into senior roles.

What does a foreign policemen - I presume they would have to be policemen ... but that is not necessarily the case with this apology for an English (and NI) government (and before someone accuses me or racism and says it's the 'British government', let me remind readers that Scotland and Wales have their own parliaments) [Actually, perhaps I've misjudged the proposals. Maybe it's to allow Scotsmen and Welshmen to become English (and NI) CCs!] - know about policing in the UK?

And another proposal is to make the police more accountable to the local population ... by doing away with small police forces and creating larger, 'strategic' forces. Again, WTF?

Another load of tosh from Bliar and cronies!

Streaky

Swilly

9,699 posts

294 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Streaky, your confused.

Wales has an assembly, different to the Scots Parliament.

Theres nothing stopping an Englishman becoming a Scot CC, unless someone wants to correct me.

Anyhows, would you prefer an English CC who couldn't tie his own shoe laces, or a foreigner that could bring real life top quality policing to his patch.

This isnt to say there aren't English potential CC that could do as good a job, just pointing out that the job should go to the BEST person.

rospa

494 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Grrrr!!!! This really gets on my goat.

Do we want people appointed on the basis of merit (i.e. that they are the best person for the job) or because they are a particular race?

UK - A meritocracy? I wish....

andygo

7,237 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Most of the CC's I read about are from a different planet, never mind a different country!

The ones from earth are all spaced anyway so we are all FCUk'd anyway.

dragstar

3,924 posts

270 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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if they do a better job, then i cant see what the fuss is all about

spaximus

4,358 posts

273 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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The real problem is that whoever becomes the CC, male, female, black white, British or Foreign they will make no differance. whilst the poloticians decide what the "real issues" are they will not be allowed to act. Imagine a tough american cop coming here, "so let me get this right someone attacks you in your own home and you get sent to jail? and the crook get a holiday to overcome the trauma, Jez"
Our legal system has been hi jacked by the do gooders, the liberal minded numskulls who cannot see that the real crime is that we do not punish criminals enough to deter in the first place. Until coppers are allowed to arrest anyone in the Knowledge that the CPS will have the balls to prosecute every case, and lock the bastards away, you might as well have the tooth fairy as CC.

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Well it boiles down to this small point...

ANYONE BUT BRUNSTRUM !!!!!!!

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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Swilly said:
Streaky, your confused.

Wales has an assembly, different to the Scots Parliament. ...
Note that I used a small 'p', not a capital for that very reason - Streaky

todiddly

33 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th November 2003
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They're all foreignors anyway. As any BIB under the rank of Chief Inspector(at the risk of a 5-year Human Rights Course) would confirm: once a Police Officer reaches the rank of Supt they are whisked off to the planet Bramshill where any semblance of common sense is lobotomised out of them on an ACPO Carousel Course. They are then filled with the pink,fluffy mush akin to a Camden Council Outreach Worker and returned to wherever they came from to spout interminable,useless platitudes to the media whilst society disintegrates about them!

JMGS4

8,870 posts

290 months

Wednesday 5th November 2003
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rospa said:
Grrrr!!!! This really gets on my goat.
Do we want people appointed on the basis of merit (i.e. that they are the best person for the job) or because they are a particular race?
UK - A meritocracy? I wish....


This opens the door to abuse as do all the damned PC laws, wait for it we're going to get am illegitemate, illiterate, il-everything racial minority CC next!!! If he can't sign his name then he doesn't get the job!!!!!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

290 months

Wednesday 5th November 2003
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Brunstrom is a foreigner, his planet revolves every 36 hours and has 2 suns. Its somewhere near the one where the King lives.

HarryW

15,751 posts

289 months

Wednesday 5th November 2003
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Well if you look at the prortion of non englishmen in the cabinet, I think you'll find this is already happening in government to a differnet degree.
Personally I think they should be barred from office and sit on the other parliments only

Harry

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