Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
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Pferdestarke

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7,191 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I tried, but I failed! I just lost interest half way through but fear I'm really missing out on a good film. Has anyone read the book?

Hunter's popularity may well have been reinvigorated recently by the many thousands of threads on different fora discussing the 'denser' / 'dancer' debate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_(The_Killers_so...

Anyone for a wee dab of Acid first thing?

ehonda

1,483 posts

221 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Would recommend the book, I really enjoyed it.

The Ben

1,623 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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ypu same here, started watching it then got sooooo bored, but I really want to like it a sit sounds cool as fk!!! dont want to be the gimp that doesnt know what his mates are talking bout when they are bantering loserpaperbag

DubaiJohn

371 posts

202 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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One of my favourite films of all time. Benicio del Toro as his lawyer is brilliant. That scene where he (Hunter)wakes up in a flooded hotel room with an 8 track microphone gaffer taped to his head and wearing a strap on kangaroo tail is brilliant.

Also love the book..but found Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail a bit hard going.

PS....now about that acid

Soft Top

1,473 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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About half way through and I gave up as well. I just didn't get it.

aclivity

4,072 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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It's one of my favourite books, he's one of my favourite authors. You have to try and get in his mindset really to enjoy the books - it's my hedonistic escape from reality. Although, that said, the fear is painfully strong in his last book, appropriately named "Kingdom of Fear".

I would recommend "The Rum Diary" to anyone - it was HST's attempt at (in his words) "The Great American Novel".

As for the F&LiLV, I have purposely avoided the film. Sometimes the pictures are better in words.

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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aclivity said:
I would recommend "The Rum Diary" to anyone - it was HST's attempt at (in his words) "The Great American Novel".
They're making a movie of that, due to be released in 2010 with Johnny Depp playing Paul Kemp.

singlecoil

34,788 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I read the book when it first came out. I thought it was very good then, but when I tried to read it again recently I was actually quite disappointed.

aclivity

4,072 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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MentalSarcasm said:
aclivity said:
I would recommend "The Rum Diary" to anyone - it was HST's attempt at (in his words) "The Great American Novel".
They're making a movie of that, due to be released in 2010 with Johnny Depp playing Paul Kemp.
Now I'm on the horns of a dilemma. Rum Diary is far more accessible than F&L, so would probably make a good film. Johnny Depp is probably a bit clean cut for the role, though?

Truckosaurus

12,699 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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A good introduction to HST is one of the anthologies such as 'Great Shark Hunt' or 'Songs of the Doomed' nice manageable chunks of gonzo. 'Hells Angels' is also very straightforward.

DamoLLb

1,775 posts

211 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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aclivity said:
MentalSarcasm said:
aclivity said:
I would recommend "The Rum Diary" to anyone - it was HST's attempt at (in his words) "The Great American Novel".
They're making a movie of that, due to be released in 2010 with Johnny Depp playing Paul Kemp.
Now I'm on the horns of a dilemma. Rum Diary is far more accessible than F&L, so would probably make a good film. Johnny Depp is probably a bit clean cut for the role, though?
I fear he will play it as Jack Sparrow!

ben_reza

412 posts

198 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I think it is one of those films that you need to be tripping when your watching it to actually get it.

LotusACBC

2,591 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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This is one of my all time favorite films. I can honestly say that I have seen over 100 times and each time I catch something new.

I remember watching with friends and we all took shrooms. It was an experience! When JD was bugging out on adrenal gland so were we, it was like we were sucked into it!


him_over_there

970 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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fear_and_loathing said:
Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era — the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run . . . but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant. . . .

History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullst, but even without being sure of “history” it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time — and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened.

My central memory of that time seems to hang on one or five or maybe forty nights — or very early mornings — when I left the Fillmore half-crazy and, instead of going home, aimed the big 650 Lightning across the Bay Bridge at a hundred miles an hour wearing L. L. Bean shorts and a Butte sheepherder's jacket . . . booming through the Treasure Island tunnel at the lights of Oakland and Berkeley and Richmond, not quite sure which turn-off to take when I got to the other end (always stalling at the toll-gate, too twisted to find neutral while I fumbled for change) . . . but being absolutely certain that no matter which way I went I would come to a place where people were just as high and wild as I was: No doubt at all about that. . . .

There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .

And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting — on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . .

So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
Fantastic!

cardigankid

8,856 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Talented guy, what a pity a he killed himself. Anyone know why or whether the drugs had anything to do with it? He seemed to me to be an early Kamikaze Comedian.

shirt

24,450 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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rum diary is distinctly average, it wouldn't stand up to much without the HST connection. fear & loathing is a good read but it really takes a lot to translate such a visual book onto film and i don't think it quite carries it off.

read hell's angels, best of the lot imo.

h4muf

2,070 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I first watched fear and loathing at glastonbury,maybe 97/8?

On mushrooms eek


KANEIT

2,836 posts

235 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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On mushrooms?!!! Hahahaha I bet that was interesting.

I saw the film when it came out at the cinema. My uni flatmates and I had free cinema tickets from some student givaway/barclaycard/railcard/free with ten vodkas offer. I was the only one that enjoyed the film. I think it was the first film I saw where quite a few people walked out after not very long!
What film EVER has lines in it like this page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120669/quotes

I love the sheer craziness of the film and the tripping out scenes, I think devised by Terry Gilliam. I think there is a cameo from Hunter S. Thompson in the scene where the guy is licking LSD off Jonny Depp's sleeve, where he comes face to face with himself. I thought Depp and Del Toro were excellent and it shows that only actors of their calibre can actually play such parts convincingly. Del Toro appears so different to his roles in The Usual Suspects and Traffic.

LotusACBC

2,591 posts

300 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Man I just realized how much I loved this film. brilliant in every sense of the word.

militantmandy

3,834 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Watched it over 100 times easiler. Awesome. Great books, great man. Gonzo (new documentary) and Where the Buffalo Roam (brilliant and very your Bill Murry as HST) are both essential viewing if you're a fan.