so how will you cope if the worst happens?
so how will you cope if the worst happens?
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Rob_T

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1,916 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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there are quite a few doom and gloom threads about, and quite a few regular posters who seem to display a certain sense of joy in watching 'world fall apart at the seams' and take pleasure in the suffering of the 'feckless'.

i can only assume that you are well protected from all this though - ie your job / business (if self employed) is not likely to be affected, plenty of savings to see you through rainy days / months / decades (depending on your doom and gloom prediction). my guess is that's not the case. it seems any business large or small can go pop at a moments notice.

so if the worse does happen, how long could you survive with no income, and how quickly do you think you could get another job / start another business and get revenue?

only really interested in hearing from the doom mongers, but it's a free world so i'm sure there will be the usual tw@tish 'highly amusing' comments from the forum 'comedians' of selling kidneys / children etc etc to make ends meet...

singlecoil

34,704 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Damn good question. Plenty of people here and elsewhere seem to think they are invulnerable. I expect they haven't even considered it, and are watching with glee as the prices of luxury items come tumbling down.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

250 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I'd use my last pay cheque to buy everything in the Adidas 2009 summer collection and then spend the next 10 years on benefits.

Steamer

14,059 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Rob_T said:
...so if the worse does happen, how long could you survive with no income...
Isnt that what the benefit system is there for? A catch net to keep you alive while you get things sorted?

I seem to hear plenty of stories about families that are well looked after by the state...

...Single british male, self employed, average weight and good health - oh, I qualify for jack st you say?! frown

HundredthIdiot

4,456 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Worst? There are much worse things than losing your job.

If you aint got yer elf, etc.

Landlord

12,689 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Rob_T said:
how long could you survive with no income
I guess it depends on your definition of both "survive" and "no income".

crofty1984

16,455 posts

220 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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If everything goes tits up, I'll move back in with the folks, get my old job back at the Co-op and work at building my life back up. Simple.

LeighW

4,969 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I work in a small(ish) accountancy practice, things aren't too bad touch wood, we've only lost a couple of clients out of roughly 300. On a personal level, I could live for 12 months or so on my savings if the worst happened.

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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If it all goes pear shaped I'd clean toilets to make ends meet. This view I don't feel is shared by a significant majority of the UK populus.

Silent_Assassin

181 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Well if its of any interest I am redundant as from this friday. I will just about be able to survive until September, when I shall be attending university.. as long as my mortgage is paid and I can look after my family then I shall be happy..

HundredthIdiot

4,456 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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FWDRacer said:
If it all goes pear shaped I'd clean toilets to make ends meet.
Why would anyone employ you?

Do you have a particular talent for bowl-scraping not posessed by the incumbent supplier?

Maxf

8,434 posts

257 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I seem to be missing the worst at the moment, but that could change. On a really basic level if we lost our job/savings/house we are in the fortunate position of being able to move into houses owned (outright) by parents. Obviously this is far from ideal, but we wouldnt be living on the streets queuing at soup kitchens.

Job wise, if either of us get made redundant we have insurance to cover income for 12 months (providing they don't wriggle out of it).

Fetchez la vache

5,788 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Well, I was made redundant on Monday, the day after my 40th smile

I spent the rest of the day re-organising my morgage repayments, ISAS, broadband, doing all the little jobs I'd been putting off that would save money or restructure my outgoings, turning off unused plugs, unplugging stuff from multi plugs.. stupid little things like that...

Then yesterday we were all told that they had found a buyer so we can have our old jobs back.

Today I'll be plugging unwanted stuff back in biggrin

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I think that some people feel that menial work or manual labour is beneath them. I'm educuated to degree level and hold down a decent job with good pay (things have looked better - I'm in the UK Auto Industry).

But, to ensure my family are fed and my mortgage is payed I wouldn't have a problem with undertaking some grotty work to keep money rolling in. I've done some cruddy jobs as a student to ensure I kept in the black. I think most of it is mindset, some people are too pampered and think society owes them a living.

Benefits would be the last option, even though I appreciate I have paid in without taking out for many years.





Edited by FWDRacer on Wednesday 25th February 09:47

Fats25

6,260 posts

245 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Rawwr said:
I'd use my last pay cheque to buy everything in the Adidas 2009 summer collection and then spend the next 10 years on benefits.
smile

I am no economist, but I think this is probably part of the problem at the moment.

I have always tried to have 6 months money (without any lifestyle change) in the bank in case of no work. I am a contractor - so this is probably wise. I am now at 1 years money in the bank. If the Mrs can hold onto her job then we can last 1 year before it is squeaky bum time. If she is not working then halve that time.

I am now trying to get 2 years money in the bank, so that if she is not working we will have a years money. If neither found work in 6 months, then I would jump ship and earn beer money somewhere nice and warm!

That is a lot of money that I would normally be spending on stuff that I am not prepared to fork out on at the moment. Don't get me wrong, still having holidays, still socializing, but not prepared to fork out for new cars, or motorbikes yet. I am sure there are a load of people like me out there, that are effectively stockpiling money for fear of future.

Once there is light at the end of the tunnel, then the decision is whether to spend those savings on the things we want, or chop it into the mortgage, or keep as savings.

Didn't the advice used to be 3 months money in savings?

Hedders

24,460 posts

263 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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crofty1984 said:
If everything goes tits up, I'll move back in with the folks, get my old job back at the Co-op and work at building my life back up. Simple.
If everything goes tits up, you won't be able to get your old job back!


p1esk

4,914 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Rawwr said:
I'd use my last pay cheque to buy everything in the Adidas 2009 summer collection and then spend the next 10 years on benefits.
....assuming the state can continue to pay benefits.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

crofty1984

16,455 posts

220 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Hedders said:
crofty1984 said:
If everything goes tits up, I'll move back in with the folks, get my old job back at the Co-op and work at building my life back up. Simple.
If everything goes tits up, you won't be able to get your old job back!
Then I'll eat stray cats before the local chinese gets to 'em! Why pay a middileman?

Fetchez la vache

5,788 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Fats25 said:
Wise words
I agree with that 100%.
So many people live beyond thier means its stupid. I've been saving up for the last few years rather than buying a nice car so that we have a nice safety net if it all goes tits up, which it looks like it will / has.

ipwn

2,920 posts

207 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Fats25 said:
Rawwr said:
I'd use my last pay cheque to buy everything in the Adidas 2009 summer collection and then spend the next 10 years on benefits.
smile

I am no economist, but I think this is probably part of the problem at the moment.

I have always tried to have 6 months money (without any lifestyle change) in the bank in case of no work. I am a contractor - so this is probably wise. I am now at 1 years money in the bank. If the Mrs can hold onto her job then we can last 1 year before it is squeaky bum time. If she is not working then halve that time.

I am now trying to get 2 years money in the bank, so that if she is not working we will have a years money. If neither found work in 6 months, then I would jump ship and earn beer money somewhere nice and warm!

That is a lot of money that I would normally be spending on stuff that I am not prepared to fork out on at the moment. Don't get me wrong, still having holidays, still socializing, but not prepared to fork out for new cars, or motorbikes yet. I am sure there are a load of people like me out there, that are effectively stockpiling money for fear of future.

Once there is light at the end of the tunnel, then the decision is whether to spend those savings on the things we want, or chop it into the mortgage, or keep as savings.

Didn't the advice used to be 3 months money in savings?
I believed that this is what everyone was doing, and was kinda the problem ?