WY Scam Ignoring ACPO
WY Scam Ignoring ACPO
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telecat

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8,528 posts

270 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Another Employee here has recived a NIP for 34MPH which is below the guidelines. Looks like the revenue stream is drying up.

Defcon5

6,465 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Guidelines are guidelines, not rules. The law says 30, anything you get away with above that should be considered a bonus, not a right

Certain circumatances may require less tolerance, I wouldnt want people being let off doing 35mph outside a school at 3pm.

Jagdpanther

19,633 posts

248 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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telecat said:
Another Employee here has recived a NIP for 34MPH which is below the guidelines. Looks like the revenue stream is drying up.
I thought 34 was bang on the limit

10% +1

blackcab

1,259 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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its a limit not a target !

AL...Ease

2,679 posts

247 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Jagdpanther said:
telecat said:
Another Employee here has recived a NIP for 34MPH which is below the guidelines. Looks like the revenue stream is drying up.
I thought 34 was bang on the limit

10% +1
Nah, they can do you for anything over 30, shouldn't, but can. Like how we shouldn't drive in cycle lanes, but can.

telecat

Original Poster:

8,528 posts

270 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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If you check the ACPO guidelines it's 35mph. Looking at the Table it's 10% + 2MPH that seems to be the rule.

Jagdpanther

19,633 posts

248 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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I wasn't sure if it was plus 1 or 2

Hang on..

Speedos are out by default right...so is the speed limit by actual physical speed or by what it says on the speedo?

Edited by Jagdpanther on Friday 27th February 08:53

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Jagdpanther said:
I wasn't sure if it was plus 1 or 2

Hang on..

Speedos are out by default right...so is the speed limit by actual physical speed or by what it says on the speedo?

Edited by Jagdpanther on Friday 27th February 08:53
Very few, if any, modern speedos read slow below 70 mph. Speed limit is 30 - its a maximium, if you have a concern over speedo accuaracy, drive below an indicated 30.

As you know Mr JDP, I'm not a speed kills type, but 30 limits being exceeded is a no no for me.

Jagdpanther

19,633 posts

248 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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TVR_owner said:
Jagdpanther said:
I wasn't sure if it was plus 1 or 2

Hang on..

Speedos are out by default right...so is the speed limit by actual physical speed or by what it says on the speedo?

Edited by Jagdpanther on Friday 27th February 08:53
Very few, if any, modern speedos read slow below 70 mph. Speed limit is 30 - its a maximium, if you have a concern over speedo accuaracy, drive below an indicated 30.

As you know Mr JDP, I'm not a speed kills type, but 30 limits being exceeded is a no no for me.
I'm not the type to go hooning through a 30 as it;s usually there for a reason smile

netherfield

3,163 posts

213 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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I believe speedos have a tolerance,but they must not be set to read slower than you are travelling,though they can read faster.

Shortly after passing her test my daughter was caught doing 32,the policeman upon discovering she was still in the probationary period(6 points and you have to take another test)gave her a ticket,but told her if she had not been he would have let her off with a warning.B***ard.

AL...Ease

2,679 posts

247 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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telecat said:
If you check the ACPO guidelines it's 35mph. Looking at the Table it's 10% + 2MPH that seems to be the rule.
It's not a rule, but a guideline, they go on about it all the time in SP&L.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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netherfield said:
I believe speedos have a tolerance,but they must not be set to read slower than you are travelling,though they can read faster.

Shortly after passing her test my daughter was caught doing 32,the policeman upon discovering she was still in the probationary period(6 points and you have to take another test)gave her a ticket,but told her if she had not been he would have let her off with a warning.B***ard.
Given the number of teenagers (or their passengers) killed shortly after passing their tests (3 of my daughters friends at Ripon Grammar including the son of the then Dep Chief Constable for instance) I am fully in favour of a zero tolerance attitude towards new drivers.

telecat

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8,528 posts

270 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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unrepentant said:
netherfield said:
I believe speedos have a tolerance,but they must not be set to read slower than you are travelling,though they can read faster.

Shortly after passing her test my daughter was caught doing 32,the policeman upon discovering she was still in the probationary period(6 points and you have to take another test)gave her a ticket,but told her if she had not been he would have let her off with a warning.B***ard.
Given the number of teenagers (or their passengers) killed shortly after passing their tests (3 of my daughters friends at Ripon Grammar including the son of the then Dep Chief Constable for instance) I am fully in favour of a zero tolerance attitude towards new drivers.
So they watch the Speedo and NOT THE ROAD. What a dangerous attitude!! Personally at that speed the BIB should have shown more sense! The young lady in question was not taking the p!ss but trying to drive responsibly. Now she take less notice of the road itself and more of her dashboard. THAT is what kills the young.

Edited by telecat on Friday 27th February 15:46

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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telecat said:
unrepentant said:
netherfield said:
I believe speedos have a tolerance,but they must not be set to read slower than you are travelling,though they can read faster.

Shortly after passing her test my daughter was caught doing 32,the policeman upon discovering she was still in the probationary period(6 points and you have to take another test)gave her a ticket,but told her if she had not been he would have let her off with a warning.B***ard.
Given the number of teenagers (or their passengers) killed shortly after passing their tests (3 of my daughters friends at Ripon Grammar including the son of the then Dep Chief Constable for instance) I am fully in favour of a zero tolerance attitude towards new drivers.
So they watch the Speedo and NOT THE ROAD. What a dangerous attitude!! Personally at that speed the BIB should have shown more sense! The young lady in question was not taking the p!ss but trying to drive responsibly. Now she take less notice of the road itself and more of her dashboard. THAT is what kills the young.
Matter of opinion mate. In at least one of the cases I mentioned the driver was going too fast for the conditions and lost control of the vehicle. As we all know sometimes 30 is too fast.

Personally I'd raise the driving age and insist on green L plates but thats another discussion.

telecat

Original Poster:

8,528 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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unrepentant said:
telecat said:
unrepentant said:
netherfield said:
I believe speedos have a tolerance,but they must not be set to read slower than you are travelling,though they can read faster.

Shortly after passing her test my daughter was caught doing 32,the policeman upon discovering she was still in the probationary period(6 points and you have to take another test)gave her a ticket,but told her if she had not been he would have let her off with a warning.B***ard.
Given the number of teenagers (or their passengers) killed shortly after passing their tests (3 of my daughters friends at Ripon Grammar including the son of the then Dep Chief Constable for instance) I am fully in favour of a zero tolerance attitude towards new drivers.
So they watch the Speedo and NOT THE ROAD. What a dangerous attitude!! Personally at that speed the BIB should have shown more sense! The young lady in question was not taking the p!ss but trying to drive responsibly. Now she take less notice of the road itself and more of her dashboard. THAT is what kills the young.
Matter of opinion mate. In at least one of the cases I mentioned the driver was going too fast for the conditions and lost control of the vehicle. As we all know sometimes 30 is too fast.

Personally I'd raise the driving age and insist on green L plates but thats another discussion.
THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!!! You look at the road not the speedo and work out the best speed. The emphasis is in the wrong area. My Son is being taught at the moment and MY advice which is to drive to the conditions and GIVE YOURSELF TIME is seemingley at odds with "passing the test". Raising the age does NOTHING. WHY because in the end it is experience. Start at 17 and have 5 years at 21 and the accident rate is the same as start at 20 and five years later. It's experience that tempers attitude not age.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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telecat said:
So they watch the Speedo and NOT THE ROAD. What a dangerous attitude!!
I'm afraid I'm with unrep. Quite simply any one driving on the public highway should have the ability to coordinate both or they should not hold a licence.

I do find the PCs attitude strange however.



Edited by TVR_owner on Saturday 28th February 06:40

tfeb

222 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Ok, driving above 30 past a school midweek is just silly and wreckless. However I know plenty of roads with no or few houses with a 30 limit which isnt required really and i wouldnt blame anyone for going faster on.

For me its all about the circumstances, location, time, visability etc etc

Speed doesnt kill bad driving does!

I watched an interesting vid recently which highlighted how people driving at the speed limit on the motorway didnt improve peoples bad driving. Ok so this is a bit of an experiment which isnt the be all and end all but interesting none the less. Let me know your thoughts.

- Oh sorry that you have to listen to a load of excitable yanks too!

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