Honda saved by Management Buyout!
Honda saved by Management Buyout!
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Asterix

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24,438 posts

257 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/a...

Well, that puts paid to any speculation.

Not happy that Bernie has a stake - surely there is a conflict of interest?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Perhaps there is but F1 doesn't worry too much about such issues. After all, Bernie ran FOCA and Brabham at the same time.

Asterix

Original Poster:

24,438 posts

257 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Fair enough.

Not as if its a sport that is has an unblemished moral track record anyway laugh

Glad to see the team safe. Hope Brawn can weave his magic.

Edited by Asterix on Friday 27th February 08:45

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Why have they bothered?

I am under the impression (possibly mistankenly) that an F1 team that is purely an F1 team, isnt a profit making enterprise.

Without sponsors money, how do you get a return? Can sponsors money be used as a return on investment or something? Is every drop of sponsors money spent on operations/the team?

Anyone have any insight into this?

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Is the return not "being employed"? Bernies return is probably from avoiding trouble with only having 18 cars on the grid when he promised more.

HeavySoul

10,580 posts

248 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Good to see not everyone in the world is so pessimistic about the global economy!


From the Times article Frank Williams said:
Don’t worry, there’s hundreds of trillions of cash in the world — something will turn up...
Glad that the grid isn't another team down and seeing Brawn out of work would of been a waste too.

Cannot see Button getting a chance to climb back from the mid-field from now on though...

Muzzlehatch

4,768 posts

271 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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308mate said:
Why have they bothered?

I am under the impression (possibly mistankenly) that an F1 team that is purely an F1 team, isnt a profit making enterprise.

Without sponsors money, how do you get a return? Can sponsors money be used as a return on investment or something? Is every drop of sponsors money spent on operations/the team?

Anyone have any insight into this?
Leverage.

If they own the team privately, and have a top notch marketing division, they can attract major sponsorship which will give the sponsors a very good return. This will boost the value of the team, which they can sell at some point in the future for a major profit. Conversely, if they get no sponsors it will all go tits up.

High risk, but that's the chance you take.

JulesV

1,801 posts

253 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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I wonder what they will call it. Tyrrell has a good ring to it.

marcia1

5,099 posts

219 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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JulesV said:
I wonder what they will call it. Tyrrell has a good ring to it.
Apparantly they will call it Brackley F1,i'll get a linky.I was under the impression they had signed bruno,but now they are saying they have'nt decided between rubens or bruno yet.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/...

Edited by marcia1 on Friday 27th February 09:02

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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JulesV said:
I wonder what they will call it. Tyrrell has a good ring to it.
LOL !


Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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JulesV said:
I wonder what they will call it. Tyrrell has a good ring to it.
hehe

If only.

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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marcia1 said:
JulesV said:
I wonder what they will call it. Tyrrell has a good ring to it.
Apparantly they will call it Brackley F1,i'll get a linky.I was under the impression they had signed bruno,but now they are saying they have'nt decided between rubens or bruno yet.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/...

Edited by marcia1 on Friday 27th February 09:02
Brackley F1. Catchy. rolleyes

ffs doesn't a certain shareholder have the rights to the Brabham F1 name?

andygo

7,392 posts

284 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Tyrell sounds a million times better than 'Brackley F1' IMO.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Brackley F1 sounds... garbage (for want of a more offensive word).

Why not keep it Honda F1 for the time being? Honda is still supplying the engine, right?

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Nope it's a Merc engine

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Jungles said:
Brackley F1 sounds... garbage (for want of a more offensive word).

Why not keep it Honda F1 for the time being? Honda is still supplying the engine, right?
Because Honda say they cannot do that. I'd vote for UKF1.

Particularly after hearing the USF1 guy say "Most of the technology in F1 comes out of the US anyway" .... oh really?

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Oo, I was right (sort of) in amongst my pessimism, or more accurately my guess was right...not that it was a difficult one to call even from the off...

Fantastic news for all concerned.

Edited by DrTre on Friday 27th February 09:50

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Jungles said:
Why not keep it Honda F1 for the time being? Honda is still supplying the engine, right?
shoutOi,Keep up at the back

Altrezia

8,741 posts

240 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Great to see that they've been saved.

Shame about the name hehe

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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They could call it Brains and Brawn, might sound more like a pub quiz entry though hehe