Anyone else finding the Brown-bashing boring?

[singlecoil]

Change the record, for FFS.

Still, I suppose it must be nice to have one particular person to blame for all the country's ills. The idea that anyone else could have done better, bearing in mind the economic conditions throughout the world, must be comforting to many people. It suggests that existence is not chaotic, that it only needs the right people to make the right decisions and everything will be alright. Whereas, in fact, the world's economies are about as controllable as the world's weather.

For the record, I have always heartily disliked Gordon Brown, and have never supported the Labour party or its policies. I do recognise, though, my not liking him doesn't make him an idiot. I doubt if he could have got to where he is if he was as thick as so many here make him out to be.

[THX138]

singlecoil said:

I do recognise, though, my not liking him doesn't make him an idiot.

But selling the UK gold reserves for flumpence does!

[Digga]

No, his is a face that I could never tire of bashing. Nor Tony Blair and especially Lord Rumba of Rio (a.k.a Peter Mandlestain).

[kambites]

Not just Brown bashing but Labour bashing in general and the bizarre idolatry of a Tory party which currently appears to have exactly the same political orientation as the Labour party that everyone constantly professes to hate.

[cs02rm0]

I'm more tired of the people making excuses for him.

[Tuska]

THX138 said:

But selling the UK gold reserves for flumpence does!

Forever to be known as Brown's bottom....

He is a self ritcheous pompus arse.

[Sheets Tabuer]

He is being bashed because almost daily it comes out that he knew something, he made the rules or one of his mates was the CEO who fecked everything.

In previous years politicians did the decent thing.

[Asterix]

He's the figure head for an organisation that has taken the country from a sound base in many aspects and ruined it... again!

He was more than happy to take all the plaudits for the good times... live by the sword etc...

[HOGEPH]

Brown-bashing

Thought that was another name for back door action

[Don]

No. It doesn't get old.

Or, at least, not this quickly.

[jamieboy]

THX138 said:

But selling the UK gold reserves for flumpence does!

I think I heard him say recently that because he sold it in euros, it was now a better deal than if he'd kept it. Or something like that - is that just nonsense?

[thinfourth2]

It is 1000000% Browns fault

Completely him

No one else

It would of been so much better if we had anyone else in charge

Like erm

Red Ken

Yep he would of been so much better



Or would could face the truth that brown is one of many useless politicians we have and they are all the same

fking useless and only care about being in power, not what they should do when they are in power

[kambites]

thinfourth2 said:

Or would could face the truth that brown is one of many useless politicians we have and they are all the same

That's certainly my opinion of the people at the top of both of the major parties; which is why I would never vote for either.

[jmorgan]

If you look up Nero it says "see G Brown"

[thinfourth2]

cs02rm0 said:

I'm more tired of the people making excuses for him.

And it is so much easier to have a big nasty man that we can blame rather then face the truth that the system is fked

Of course to say it is 100% brown then at no point can you say that it is anything what so ever to do with this bloke



If anyone can actually remember who he is

[Puggit]

Actually I'm rather bored of the leftie impression that everyone on here idolizes the Tories. I certainly don't, but I do have a rabid hate of Labour.

I do understand that the Tory party is the lesser of 2 evils...

[AstonZagato]

But Brown was the worst Chancellor in living memory. Whilst talking about "prudence" and "banishing boom and bust", he was spending like a loon (to ensure Labour re-election). He increasing government borrowing in the good times (to ensure his support for a run on Bliar's role). He knowingly allowed the biggest property bubble in living memory to inflate unchecked (to keep the masses content). He also raided everyone's pensions (so he could smugly talk about prudence). He sold our gold having telegraphed it to the market in advance to ensure we got the lowest possible price (God knows why, other than him being a moron).

To be clear the Tories would have probably made many of the same mistakes (housing market in particular) but they have (in the Thatcher years) paid down government debt in the good times, not increased borrowing.

When Labour talking heads were trying to big him up as a the "greatest Chancellor" anyone with half a brain cell would have been, like me, screaming at the TV, with urine at scaling point. Sadly, most of the population lack the mental acuity to chew gum and walk at the same time, so many people swallowed it - mistaking the strong global economy and Tory legacy of a light touch regulatory environment as some bit of Brown genius. All the while he was working hard to fecking it up in the long-term.

He is now now reaping the just rewards of his rank stupidity.

He deserves every barbed comment he gets (and more). Ejit of the first order.

Edited by AstonZagato on Friday 27th February 09:20

[longblackcoat]

kambites said:

Not just Brown bashing but Labour bashing in general and the bizarre idolatry of a Tory party which currently appears to have exactly the same political orientation as the Labour party that everyone constantly professes to hate.

Completely agree. If anything, things would have been even worse under Cameron. And they're all, broadly, of a similar mindset now.

Still, it's quietened down the "Britain's finished - I'm emigrating" threads, as people seem to have realised that this is, in fact, a global recession....

[215cu]

longblackcoat said:

kambites said:

Not just Brown bashing but Labour bashing in general and the bizarre idolatry of a Tory party which currently appears to have exactly the same political orientation as the Labour party that everyone constantly professes to hate.

Completely agree. If anything, things would have been even worse under Cameron. And they're all, broadly, of a similar mindset now.

Still, it's quietened down the "Britain's finished - I'm emigrating" threads, as people seem to have realised that this is, in fact, a global recession....

No. The Tories are still a small government tax-cutting party and Labour are still a big government, big spend party.

So yes, I can see they are exactly the same as each other

[longblackcoat]

215cu said:

longblackcoat said:

kambites said:

Not just Brown bashing but Labour bashing in general and the bizarre idolatry of a Tory party which currently appears to have exactly the same political orientation as the Labour party that everyone constantly professes to hate.

Completely agree. If anything, things would have been even worse under Cameron. And they're all, broadly, of a similar mindset now.

Still, it's quietened down the "Britain's finished - I'm emigrating" threads, as people seem to have realised that this is, in fact, a global recession....

No. The Tories are still a small government tax-cutting party and Labour are still a big government, big spend party.

So yes, I can see they are exactly the same as each other

Have you looked at the Conservative policies recently? There are points of detail, but broadly they're in line with the government in terms of spending on infrastructure to get us out of a recession, and they're certainly not complaining about supporting the banks.

Conservative or Labour, we're looking at VERY high public spending for the next 5+ years, with any prospect of low taxation absolutely miles off. There will thus be minimal differences, regardless of who gets chosen at the next election.