Iva Q

[Furyous]

Is this new load of old tosh any different to the old load of tosh ?

Can it posiibly be any more anal ?

Considering a Spectre currently and dont know if I can be bothered to SVA as its only going to be used for track days.

[Dave Dax builder]

It's looking like:-
Your exhaust will have to be a bit quieter.
You will have to fit a near side mirror.
and you will have to fit head rests.

That's about it for kit cars.

[rdodger]

Dave Dax builder said:

It's looking like:-
Your exhaust will have to be a bit quieter.
You will have to fit a near side mirror.
and you will have to fit head rests.

That's about it for kit cars.

And fit a bit of wire to tie the fuel cap to the car. Whats that about????

[craig7l]

dont forget to apply with a 17digit chassis number as the old min 8 is out the window.

E marked OEM horn required

CAT1 if using imobilisor on anti theft

the bias brakes are no longer allowed to be pinned the nuts must be welded on and the threads welded to stop any type of adjustment.

Designated rear registration plate position required for permanant fixing plate (visable and upright)

[Steve_D]

craig7l said:

E marked OEM horn required

CAT1 if using imobilisor on anti theft

Where are you finding the E marked horn? The book says "The horn must perform to an equivalent level of an EC Type Approved vehicle"

CAT1 is in section 13B which is headed 'optional'.
13A just says you must have an installation certificate for your immobiliser.
I also see an FIA power switch and removable steering wheel are not now approved for anti-theft.

Steve

[Snake the Sniper]

Anyone see a sensible way around the bias brake bit? If you fit them, you won't know for sure that you'll pass until you turn up. Only to then fail because you decide to be leave it so it can be correctly adjusted. Is it possible to borrow the local MOT rollers to check it as per the IVA test?

[craig7l]

Steve_D said:

craig7l said:

E marked OEM horn required

CAT1 if using imobilisor on anti theft

Where are you finding the E marked horn? The book says "The horn must perform to an equivalent level of an EC Type Approved vehicle"

CAT1 is in section 13B which is headed 'optional'.
13A just says you must have an installation certificate for your immobiliser.
I also see an FIA power switch and removable steering wheel are not now approved for anti-theft.

Steve

So am i now reading this right...
if its just got an imobilisor (mandatory if its not got a machanical device)then it just needs a certificate of compliance. However if its got an alarm/imobilisor combo (which is optional) it needs to be CAT1 approved...??????

i would just fit a E marked OEM horn anyway as they are a fiver of ebay instead of arguing the toss over a clown horn.

reversing lamp now mandatory

Edited by craig7l on Saturday 28th February 17:27

[Furyous]

craig7l said:

reversing lamp now mandatory

Even on a Bec with no reverse ?

[craig7l]

Application: All vehicles

"They must operate by selection of reverse gear or be fitted with a telltale warning device"

section 17 Speedometer and reverse gear

If over 25mph top speed..

"The vehicle must have an operational reverse gear which can be selected from the driving position"

Edited by craig7l on Saturday 28th February 18:13

[Dave Dax builder]

I think I got it wrong again dad!

Change to "I think that's about it for Dax Cobra kits".

Edited by Dave Dax builder on Saturday 28th February 20:27

[Furyous]

Whats the generel feeling on the prices of non registered stuff ?

This Spectre Im thinking about would be solely used and built for track work, with an eye to possible future RGB.

However, there always comes a time when a project has to move on, and Im wondering if the IVE/SVA thing is really worth the ballsache.

What differnce do you think it would make to the price, percentage wise ?

Or would it just take longer to sell ?

[Snake the Sniper]

Price wise it is difficult to say, as a car built purely for track work may well have lighter/better brakes, wheels and non road legal tyres, and generally be not much use as a road car. However, if you had two identical cars, one SVA/IVA'd and one not, then maybe something in the region of 10-25% depending upon the car.
Oh, do RBG cars have to be road legal/registered? Might be worth taking that into account as I know some race series only run road worthy cars.

[Furyous]

RGB is only Mot legal IIRC.

[Snake the Sniper]

Furyous said:

RGB is only Mot legal IIRC.

Does that mean it has to have an actual MOT ticket or merely be up to the standard? Because to get an MOT it'll need an SVA/IVA.

[Furyous]

Snake the Sniper said:

Furyous said:

RGB is only Mot legal IIRC.

Does that mean it has to have an actual MOT ticket or merely be up to the standard? Because to get an MOT it'll need an SVA/IVA.

750mc website said:

Vehicle Type (section 5.2)

Created in 2001, the RGB Championship (Roadgoing bike-engined cars) is for two-seater cars to roadgoing spec and capable of passing an MoT on the day of the event. The cars can be ‘one-off’, converted sports or kit cars or one of the many bike-engined kit cars.

[Snake the Sniper]

Hmmmm, that's not overly clear, although given that it says road-going, I would assume they will need an SVA. Best bet is to ask some of the racers, there must be some on here.

[craig7l]

Snake the Sniper said:

Anyone see a sensible way around the bias brake bit? If you fit them, you won't know for sure that you'll pass until you turn up. Only to then fail because you decide to be leave it so it can be correctly adjusted. Is it possible to borrow the local MOT rollers to check it as per the IVA test?

thought they were "unadjustable" on the day anyway? being roll pinned.

[Snake the Sniper]

craig7l said:

Snake the Sniper said:

Anyone see a sensible way around the bias brake bit? If you fit them, you won't know for sure that you'll pass until you turn up. Only to then fail because you decide to be leave it so it can be correctly adjusted. Is it possible to borrow the local MOT rollers to check it as per the IVA test?

thought they were "unadjustable" on the day anyway? being roll pinned.

True, but some places will let you test it, adjust if necessary and then pin them. Pinning takes a few minutes while the tester goes for a brew. Welding them up is much more permanent.

[dugt]

Furyous said:

Is this new load of old tosh any different to the old load of tosh ?

as far as i see it, its mostly the same, just much more expensive

Furyous said:

Can it posiibly be any more anal ?

yes they could, there not asking for air bags, abs, crumple zones. dont give them ideas
whislt it may be a hassle to pass the test, it is passable in the end

Furyous said:

Considering a Spectre currently and dont know if I can be bothered to SVA as its only going to be used for track days.

thats great for when you are owning it, but if you need to sell it, i think it would put off many people, even if they were only planning on using it for trackdays, imagine test drives, new owner getting it home etc

this is jus my opinion, but im planning on putting a 20 year old kit car through the iva so you should be fine

doug

[Steve_D]

Have to say the requirement to weld up a brake balance bar worries me even more than drilling and pining.

I'm sure if you asked the designer of the bar if he still stands by the integrity of his design once holes have been drilled or the hardness/temper changed by the heat of welding the answer would be an emphatic NO.

Steve