Six police officers beaten by firework mob

[Mrs Fish]

ananova said:

Six police officers beaten by firework mob Six police officers who tried to stop youngsters setting off fireworks are recovering after they were attacked by a 50-strong mob. The officers were punched and kicked by their attackers who had congregated on a field near an official Bonfire Night celebration in Crewe. A spokesman for Cheshire Constabulary said two officers were originally called out to disperse around 15 youths that were setting off fireworks on the playing field. The youths became abusive but eventually left the area. But at around 8.20pm the officers were called back, and this time a crowd of 50 had gathered. One youth tried to assault one of the officers and when they tried to arrest him were attacked by the mob. The police spokesman said: "They were punched and kicked, they called for back-up and another four officers attended. They were attacked too." The police used CS gas to break up the crowd, which then ran off. A 19-year-old local man has been arrested for being drunk and disorderly, whilst a 20-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of threatening behaviour and obstructing a police officer. The officers have been checked by a doctor who has declared them unfit for duty. The police spokesman said: "Physically they just suffered bruising but this was a terrifying attack, all the officers were left deeply shocked." An investigation has been launched to track down those involved in the attack.

[toad_oftoadhall]

Fifty people beat up 8 policemen and only *two* arrests result.

When 50 people get caught by a camera van do 48 get off?

You can do anything in this country as long as it's not in a car.

Nice to know if 50 PHers kick f**k out of a camera operative 96 per cent will get away with it! I like those odds!

>> Edited by toad_oftoadhall on Thursday 6th November 14:14

[Swilly]

So scrotiety has completely given up even the slightest respect for the law and the officers of the law.

Maybe this apparent brake down in one element of the basic fabric of society will bring about some effective anti-street kids/scrote measures.

Did anyone see Kenyon Confronts recently?

I know there is a thread going on about it on here, but it ties in with this story.

[Mrs Fish]

I put a thread up about it last night.

disturbing to say the least.

[JMGS4]

All I can say is I'm absolutely disgusted that such scrotery isn't virgourously stamped out...
but these damned socialist do-gooder lentilist anti-car treehuggers will say these scum are underpriveliged and thus are above the law....
Poor BiBs get the stick, the punches, the kicks, and then get slagged-off, but not by me......
Bring back the birch, the stocks, and hanging..........

[toad_oftoadhall]

JMGS4 said:

Bring back the birch, the stocks, and hanging..........

Yes! But arrests have to be made first! This case isn't a sentencing issue it's a desire-to-deal-to-deal-with-the-problem issue.

Once plod have done their job and locked them up then the courts can issue the snetence to hang.

[outlaw]

just what made 50 peeps go mad thats what you have to ask your self.

dont belive all you read unless your there and see it .

[justme]

If there were speed cameras in the area, then they could have caught them speeding away.
We need more cameras, methinks!

[toad_oftoadhall]

outlaw said:

just what made 50 peeps go mad thats what you have to ask your self.

SP50's! You piss off 2 million people a year and you end up with public order issues!

The fact that hardly any arrests were made indicates tacit acceptance which won't help next time.

How many camera vans were out while this was happening? It shows the police's real priority if there were talivan stealing innocent people's cash while their rozzer mates were getting a kicking!

>> Edited by toad_oftoadhall on Thursday 6th November 14:49

[centurion07]

outlaw said:

just what made 50 peeps go mad thats what you have to ask your self. dont belive all you read unless your there and see it .

Do you think six coppers are going to be stupid enough to do something to antagonise a 50-strong crowd if not absolutely necessary? Little tw@ts were d*cking around with fireworks, asked to move on & didn't want to. They deliberately put themselves in a position where the police would have to deal with them & then didn't like it when it happened.

[outlaw]

well i dont know i want there. and dont belive what i read.

[centurion07]

outlaw said:

well i dont know i want there. and dont belive what i read.

And quite right you shouldn't believe everything you read. But if they didn't like the way the police handled it, they shouldn't have put themselves in that position where the police would have to get involved. S'like people being arrested in a riot, if you weren't involved, WTF were you doing there then? Any normal person would have been getting the hell out of there!! What I'm saying is, if you don't like the police/their methods, don't put yourself in a position where you're likely to be on the receiving end of it!

[nonegreen]

There are certain areas of Crewe where this is normal behaviour anyway. Cheshire Police should stop putting 20-30 officers on the A556 to catch speeding motorists and perhaps we would sympathise.

[streaky]

centurion07 said:

outlaw said: well i dont know i want there. and dont belive what i read. And quite right you shouldn't believe everything you read. But if they didn't like the way the police handled it, they shouldn't have put themselves in that position where the police would have to get involved. S'like people being arrested in a riot, if you weren't involved, WTF were you doing there then? Any normal person would have been getting the hell out of there!! What I'm saying is, if you don't like the police/their methods, don't put yourself in a position where you're likely to be on the receiving end of it!

Having been caught up in two riots in Paris many years ago, I would say that getting out of one can be difficult. In the first incident I managed to duck down into a Metro station, but so did a number of youths whom the CRS pursued and somewhat indiscriminately lashed out with their batons. A colleague was struck on the shoulder and when he protested in English (so they would know he wasn't part of the riot) the policeman hit him again (900 years of warfare and they still won't recognise that they lost ). The second time I wasn't so 'lucky' and it was only the fact that I protested to the 'arresting' gendarme in English that stopped them bundling me into a van. The riot started and the CRS appeared as if from nowhere (no sirens) and started bundling everyone in reach into vans - with much clubbing, punching and kicking (from the gendarmes). There are innocent parties too you know. What about those people illegally detained in London when the police closed off one of the squares ... because there were (allegedly) some 'trouble-makers' in their midst? They had no way of getting out.

Streaky

[Puggit]

Ahhh but the CRS have a shed load more respect from the general population - precisely because they do go in all guns blazing and take sh!t from no one.

I've seen 2 CRS get on a Metro carriage and half the carriage get off!

[millasur]

Youths in a group will do just bout anything - that's the way society is. It's amazing that people find stuff like this "extraordinary" - no offense. I could have told you that would have happened. Its like when people see onthe news how "mobile phone crime" has risen and hear about muggings and stabbings and "can't believe it".

[JamieBeeston]

Nice :|

I come from Crewe, and my parents live there ..

it was probably Queens Park...

Dont think I need to describe the surrounding 'estates'

sickening, it used to be a 'nice' area..

[OJG]

outlaw said:

just what made 50 peeps go mad thats what you have to ask your self. dont belive all you read unless your there and see it .

Yep. 6 officers turned up, and they really gave the 50 civilians a really hard time, taunting them and winding them up, cos 6 vs 50 is the kinda number I'd go for every time!!!

Jeeeez, are you nuts??? No six people in any form would antagonise 50 people to the point of attack cos they were bored, pissed off, or fancied a ruck. Come on and grow up!!

[HarryW]

If it was a ruck, then I am slightly suprised there wasn't 20 youths seeking mediacal attention in the local hospitals.
Which, either says to me
1. There was no ruck just some pushing and shoving. or
2. The BiB were frightened to use to much force for fear of later recriminations.

Personally I would have laid out half a dozen mit me trunction before I got the first bruise .

All IMHO and total guessing on my part.

harry

[streaky]

HarryW said:

... Personally I would have laid out half a dozen mit me trunction before I got the first bruise . ...

The father of a school friend was a copper on Salford docks at one time. The 'standard' response on occasions such as this was to draw truncheon, hold the wooden part and lash out with the leather wrist loop.

It inflicted severe weals on the faces of the youths and put them off the streets for a couple of weeks.

Nothing else needed!

But in those days: police stations were manned 24 hours a day; coppers were respected by innocent and criminal alike; they patrolled the streets singly and knew their ground intimately; their time was spent on crime protection and detection, not paperwork; they dealt with petty crime efficiently and effectively; they had little fear of some toe-rag bringing them to court; their masters were not politicos; ... 'nuf said or need I go on?

Streaky