On Line Survey
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NugentS

Original Poster:

699 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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www.safecam.org.uk

Avon, Gloucester etc have an online survey about scameras. How about we all answer it.....

gopher

5,160 posts

279 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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You need to click ont he feedback link to answer the survey and it does ask you in which area you live and your postcode (neither of which you need to answer), and whilst aimed at the local residents it would be interesting to see what they would make of a full-on PH response!

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

291 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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don't forget to turn off cookies before doing this...

regmolehusband

4,081 posts

277 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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Done - I gave my considered sensible opinion without being unrealistically extreme.

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

288 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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Leave feedback eh ? Wankers!

Right you have said 32% of crashes are speed related , A speed scamera measures speed , so if you are a "safety" team why are you not concentrating on bad driving ?
All you scamera partnerships are after one thing and one thing only and that's money , i cant belive any of the bollocks that you print about how you have so called saved a life because it untrue , its all down to some sad twat with a calculator working on figures , i have to drive tens of thousands of miles a year , all i feel is threatend by you highway robbers , the sooner your scam is unearthed the better

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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Oh come on! You really are being careless leaving links to feedback forms just lying about! Some could fill one of them things in ya know!
Come to think about, it might be me who fills it in....bollox to it wheres that link gone....?

Sent em this: Your days are numbered!

>> Edited by deltaf on Thursday 6th November 22:11

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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deltaf said:
Oh come on! You really are being careless leaving links to feedback forms just lying about! Some could fill one of them things in ya know!
Come to think about, it might be me who fills it in....bollox to it wheres that link gone....?

Sent em this: Your days are numbered!

>> Edited by deltaf on Thursday 6th November 22:11


Or send them "Look, look over there quick. Its the worm. Its TURNING!!!!"

rs1952

5,247 posts

279 months

Thursday 6th November 2003
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Well, that was fun !! Although, unfortunately, it didn't have a field to give one's more detailed comments.

And, whilst I don't live in the area these days, I did for quite some years and can regularly be found in Yate and Chipping Sodbury, so I feel perfectly qualified to categorise myself as "almost" a resident of South Gloucestershire (its only 8 miles away from home, even now)

The pity is, that negative responses like the majority of us are likely to give is going to have f**k all impact on the buggers. I read with some interest the "news link" on Temple Way in Bristol and those social pariahs who dare to exceed the 30 limit.

For those of you that don't know, this is an underpass at Old Market Street (the inner ring road in Reading looks remarkably similar, if that helps some of you !!)leading down to the roundabout close to Temple Meads station. No pavements on the underpass section, dual carriageway along all its length, pedestrian bridges, pelican crossings and underpasses as far as the eye can see, no need whatsoever of a 30 limit - when I lived in Bristol in the 70s, 50-55 felt perfectly safe. In those days, of course, nobody gave a t**s. Apparently, now they do.

But, of course, today's technology means that they can make more cash out of motorists than they did 30 years ago ...

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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Be interesting to see how they 'spin' the results. Much of the quoted statistics on the 'success' of the scameras reminds me of the story that in the old days of the Soviet Union, Pravda ran a report that the New York Times had held a vote among its readers as to which of Nikita Khrushchev and John F Kennedy was the more popular.

Pravda reported that in the free vote the Soviet Premier came second and the US President came next to last!

Streaky

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

288 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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Posted this yesterday - it'll be interesting to see if they bother to respond.

I am very sad and disappointed to read last night's Bristol Evening Post, regarding your policy of siting cameras in areas where they raise revenue, whilst ignoring places they really need to be. Put cameras outside schools, old people's homes and in residential areas. In short, in urban 30mph limits. Leave NSL roads and dual carriageways alone.

Having thought about the article I have to say that I can think of only a handful of cameras in 30mph limits, and the only places I ever seem to see mobile units are on roads that have had the speed limit recently reduced (usually from NSL to 40mph). I have to say that these revelations have severely shaken my faith in your practice and have led me to question your true motives.

count duckula

1,324 posts

294 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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Survey duly completed.

Malc

mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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""Interesting to read that of the 40 odd highest ranking accident black-spots you are only monitoring 9 with cameras, the remainder of your cameras being on "other" roads. Hardly backs up the "safety" part of your name does it? And how on earth can your you say that your "safety" cameras catch the drunk , the uninsured, the dodgy tyres, the un-taxed, the tail-gaters, the lane-hoggers, the blissfully unaware, the stupid pedestrian, the tired lorry driver weaving all over the place... etc etc etc

You cant, can you? More traffic police out on the roads please, less reliance on alienating the general public with ridiculous money gathering scams ....

We're not stupid, and we know that 30% of accidents are NOT caused by speed (try more like 5 - 7%). So all these other accidents (the VAST majority!) are not policed at all ..

Stupid, stupid, stupid! No-one learns by recieving an automated ticket on a dual-carriageway just reduced from 60 to 50, but they DO learn if they're pulled over and TALKED to about why what they've just done is dangerous.... When will you learn this simple lesson??""

There, lets see what they make of that!

stackmonkey

5,083 posts

269 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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Merely asked why cameras were placed on wide straight roads with no specific hazards instead of outside schools, hospitals and shopping areas... Also why couldn't they spell 'Stongly' correctly?

flat in fifth

47,546 posts

271 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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Long time best mate was round our place last night and we both filled in this survey.

Suffice to say when they read his responses and his job title[1] that should make 'em choke on their custard creams.

[1] yes he is a BiB in a road policing unit

Surprisingly he was marginally more extreme than my own responses, but only by a gnat's wossname.

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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flat in fifth said:

Surprisingly he was marginally more extreme than my own responses, but only by a gnat's wossname.


I've always said that grass roots police suffer more form the Talivan than any of us...

flat in fifth

47,546 posts

271 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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What's up Toad, still not got the furniture replaced after the weasels trashed it all? I assume that accounts for the echo?

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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flat in fifth said:
What's up Toad, still not got the furniture replaced after the weasels trashed it all? I assume that accounts for the echo?


What echo???

;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-);-) ;-) ;-);-) ;-) ;-)

flat in fifth

47,546 posts

271 months

Friday 7th November 2003
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toad_oftoadhall said:


flat in fifth said:
What's up Toad, still not got the furniture replaced after the weasels trashed it all? I assume that accounts for the echo?




What echo???

;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-);-) ;-) ;-);-) ;-) ;-)


forgot there was a delete post button!
sneaky git!

Of course I shall adopt the intellectually higher ground down by the Riverbank and old Badger and I will head off for a quiet pint tonight!



>> Edited by flat in fifth on Friday 7th November 15:06