maserati 4200 vs 911
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i have been looking at getting a nice sporty 2+2 for a while now mainly looked at porsche {had a 993 c4s a few years ago}
have looked at the 4200 now i can get one for a lot less than a 993 porsche {the model i was looking at} up to about 10k cheaper .04 plate with only 35k on the clock from a specialist that has been mentioned on here for about £17k
just serviced.
but which to to for will i soon make up the money i have saved by buying the maser on servicing etc are they reliable enoght to use frequently
how well do you think they will retain there value if i keep it for a few years
any coments etc
have looked at the 4200 now i can get one for a lot less than a 993 porsche {the model i was looking at} up to about 10k cheaper .04 plate with only 35k on the clock from a specialist that has been mentioned on here for about £17k
just serviced.
but which to to for will i soon make up the money i have saved by buying the maser on servicing etc are they reliable enoght to use frequently
how well do you think they will retain there value if i keep it for a few years
any coments etc
My 4200 is pretty reliable, it had a few problems when I got it, but luckily it was under warranty. I think you need to budget £2.5k - £3k a year to run it. If it needs anything done dont expect change from a grand.
I use mine everyday. I love it!
Loads of 911's about, not many massers.
I use mine everyday. I love it!
Loads of 911's about, not many massers.
Edited by Gring on Friday 6th March 16:37
Funnily enough, i have both a 996 911 and a Maserati 4200.
Both are completely different cars to drive ... The 4200 feels like an event when your driving it. The noise, the engine, the power ..... getting to massive speeds without knowing it (apparently).
The 911 feels like a proper sports car that you can just go out and push harder, and harder. Braking later and later, feeling that your connected to the road through the back axle.... You dont feel particularly special while driving one (they are common as muck) but its more of a plaything than the Maserati which makes you feel like a celebrity when you get in it and people turn their heads as you go past
Having said that, i cant bring myself to get rid of either i dont think. Both very special cars in their own way.
Both are completely different cars to drive ... The 4200 feels like an event when your driving it. The noise, the engine, the power ..... getting to massive speeds without knowing it (apparently).
The 911 feels like a proper sports car that you can just go out and push harder, and harder. Braking later and later, feeling that your connected to the road through the back axle.... You dont feel particularly special while driving one (they are common as muck) but its more of a plaything than the Maserati which makes you feel like a celebrity when you get in it and people turn their heads as you go past
Having said that, i cant bring myself to get rid of either i dont think. Both very special cars in their own way.
I've had both too.
Had a 996 C4S, excellent car had it for just over a year.
Part-exchanged it for a 4200 Spyder. Which I still have nearly two years later.
Used both everyday the Maserati is much more of an event, looks beautiful and is pretty uncommon. The 911 is the better sports car, but I have a track car for that. The Maserati suits me better.
Had a 996 C4S, excellent car had it for just over a year.
Part-exchanged it for a 4200 Spyder. Which I still have nearly two years later.
Used both everyday the Maserati is much more of an event, looks beautiful and is pretty uncommon. The 911 is the better sports car, but I have a track car for that. The Maserati suits me better.
some similar posts around this site and also check out http://www.maseratiforum.co.uk/ . I owned a 996 and now own a GranSport (which is the one you really want) - two quite different beasts - the GS is actually quite practical - you cant really get anyone in the back of 911 - the GS is huge in comparison. If you're thinking its gonna be built like an Audi or Porker - look elsewhere - its not that they break down all the time but there's a fair few squeeks and rattles that just come with the territory... Get a maser and enjoy the amazing V8 and the style and occasion of owning it. Check out the Top Gear review of the GS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTN89LxRBbM
Edited by Fabster on Saturday 7th March 11:40
Edited by Fabster on Saturday 7th March 11:41
many thans for replies, the maser is more special and possibly bought with the heart
but is the 911 the more sensible purchase
what sort of difference in running costs could i expect, and how about residuals {taking into account 911 are losing money hand over fist}
i could see myself in the maser {now i find my two sons dont realy fit in the back of a db7} but not if its going to cost twice the money the 911 does to run and spend most of its time in the garage
but is the 911 the more sensible purchase
what sort of difference in running costs could i expect, and how about residuals {taking into account 911 are losing money hand over fist}
i could see myself in the maser {now i find my two sons dont realy fit in the back of a db7} but not if its going to cost twice the money the 911 does to run and spend most of its time in the garage
tuscrv8 said:
many thans for replies, the maser is more special and possibly bought with the heart
but is the 911 the more sensible purchase
what sort of difference in running costs could i expect, and how about residuals {taking into account 911 are losing money hand over fist}
i could see myself in the maser {now i find my two sons dont realy fit in the back of a db7} but not if its going to cost twice the money the 911 does to run and spend most of its time in the garage
I think it used to be a 'head or heart' decision, even up to the 3200 era, now? I think the 4200 is head AND heart, reliability and performance are as good as the 911 in my experience (until GT3 RS, turbos) but the occasion whilst driving is way ahead of the Porsche, plus its a less common sight, joe bloggs (if that important to you) opinion is one of respect for the marque (always let you out) older history for Maserati (if that's your thing).but is the 911 the more sensible purchase
what sort of difference in running costs could i expect, and how about residuals {taking into account 911 are losing money hand over fist}
i could see myself in the maser {now i find my two sons dont realy fit in the back of a db7} but not if its going to cost twice the money the 911 does to run and spend most of its time in the garage
No brainer I think, one of the best cars I have ever owner, not perfect but the imperfections are small enough to be character
I came from owning various Porsche to the Gransport.
Would never consider going back. As everybody says it is a superb car which I have now had for 18 months.
Running cost to date has been approx £1k which was been for a service and a new tyre which got a cut. The one thing to get is a good warranty in case of any niggles early on.
Would never consider going back. As everybody says it is a superb car which I have now had for 18 months.
Running cost to date has been approx £1k which was been for a service and a new tyre which got a cut. The one thing to get is a good warranty in case of any niggles early on.
tuscrv8 said:
many thans for replies, the maser is more special and possibly bought with the heart
but is the 911 the more sensible purchase
what sort of difference in running costs could i expect, and how about residuals {taking into account 911 are losing money hand over fist}
i could see myself in the maser {now i find my two sons dont realy fit in the back of a db7} but not if its going to cost twice the money the 911 does to run and spend most of its time in the garage
If you are getting out of a DB7 because your kids wont fit you wont be any better off in a 911. I have never owned a 911 but had a 3200 for 3 years and now have had a Gransport for over 3 years in which I have done over 30,000 trouble free miles. but is the 911 the more sensible purchase
what sort of difference in running costs could i expect, and how about residuals {taking into account 911 are losing money hand over fist}
i could see myself in the maser {now i find my two sons dont realy fit in the back of a db7} but not if its going to cost twice the money the 911 does to run and spend most of its time in the garage
Owned a 4200 for 2 years and used it as a daily driver and am now totally hooked on the brand, traded in last year for a QP GTS. As has been said above the 4200 is not without fault but they are minor and do not detract from the overall ownership experience which is simply not comparable to that of a 911 which is a little sterile in comparison. There is also no real space in the back of a 911, the 4200 has bags of space in comparison, even did a road trip to South of France a couple of years ago with the wife and kids plus luggage for 2 weeks!
I don't think many would argue that the 911 is probably the better car in ultimate terms but depending upon what you use it for in the vast majority of cases you will not be driving in a manner which would allow you to benefit from that difference by any great margin. The upside is therefore the fact that the Maser is always an event to get into and drive and it simply oozes character which I felt is lacking in the modern 911's.
Mine didn't cost a fortune to run, annual service was about £1k and major £1.5k both with Maser dealers due to warranty requirements but can be cheaper if using a marque specialist, of which there are several. Tyres are also not that expensive, I paid £600 for a set of Goodyear Eagles. A good warranty does give peace of mind especially if you are buying a private car with no recourse but otherwise I thoroughly recommend it.
I don't think many would argue that the 911 is probably the better car in ultimate terms but depending upon what you use it for in the vast majority of cases you will not be driving in a manner which would allow you to benefit from that difference by any great margin. The upside is therefore the fact that the Maser is always an event to get into and drive and it simply oozes character which I felt is lacking in the modern 911's.
Mine didn't cost a fortune to run, annual service was about £1k and major £1.5k both with Maser dealers due to warranty requirements but can be cheaper if using a marque specialist, of which there are several. Tyres are also not that expensive, I paid £600 for a set of Goodyear Eagles. A good warranty does give peace of mind especially if you are buying a private car with no recourse but otherwise I thoroughly recommend it.
went and had a look at an 03 plate car but 04 model with 20k on the clock new clutch and just serviced by main dealer for sale at 17k {lot of car for the mone , but how much more can they lose}
but still concerned that the ownership experiance will empty my bank every time i pass a dealership {spent to much time reading internet posts}
as for the drive i prefered it to the porsche and actually got let out at a junction !
i know that this type of car is not cheap to run but are the comparable to a 911 or a lot more ? . what do people put aside for a years running on average
phill
but still concerned that the ownership experiance will empty my bank every time i pass a dealership {spent to much time reading internet posts}
as for the drive i prefered it to the porsche and actually got let out at a junction !
i know that this type of car is not cheap to run but are the comparable to a 911 or a lot more ? . what do people put aside for a years running on average
phill
tuscrv8 said:
went and had a look at an 03 plate car but 04 model with 20k on the clock new clutch and just serviced by main dealer for sale at 17k {lot of car for the mone , but how much more can they lose}
but still concerned that the ownership experiance will empty my bank every time i pass a dealership {spent to much time reading internet posts}
as for the drive i prefered it to the porsche and actually got let out at a junction !
i know that this type of car is not cheap to run but are the comparable to a 911 or a lot more ? . what do people put aside for a years running on average
phill
The general consensus is that if you are worried about the running costs on a Maserati; then don't go there. I think my worst year was £4500 on my 3200 (new back boxes, throttle body, starting motor etc.), and I only do 2000 to 3000 miles a year!but still concerned that the ownership experiance will empty my bank every time i pass a dealership {spent to much time reading internet posts}
as for the drive i prefered it to the porsche and actually got let out at a junction !
i know that this type of car is not cheap to run but are the comparable to a 911 or a lot more ? . what do people put aside for a years running on average
phill
Popeyed said:
tuscrv8 said:
went and had a look at an 03 plate car but 04 model with 20k on the clock new clutch and just serviced by main dealer for sale at 17k {lot of car for the mone , but how much more can they lose}
but still concerned that the ownership experiance will empty my bank every time i pass a dealership {spent to much time reading internet posts}
as for the drive i prefered it to the porsche and actually got let out at a junction !
i know that this type of car is not cheap to run but are the comparable to a 911 or a lot more ? . what do people put aside for a years running on average
phill
The general consensus is that if you are worried about the running costs on a Maserati; then don't go there. I think my worst year was £4500 on my 3200 (new back boxes, throttle body, starting motor etc.), and I only do 2000 to 3000 miles a year!but still concerned that the ownership experiance will empty my bank every time i pass a dealership {spent to much time reading internet posts}
as for the drive i prefered it to the porsche and actually got let out at a junction !
i know that this type of car is not cheap to run but are the comparable to a 911 or a lot more ? . what do people put aside for a years running on average
phill
When ppl talk of the "you cant afford it if you have to ask variety" I think of 5 figure running sums!
4.5 k in one year ! that cant be a normal years running just a one off
if thats the case it may have to be a sterile but dependable porsche {i will just have to wait longer at junctions}had a tvr as well never had any big bills in 4 years same with a 911 {must have been luky}
also how much more do you think these 4200 will drop in price , the one i am looking at fsh new clutch 20k on the clock £17k {can they go much lower}
if thats the case it may have to be a sterile but dependable porsche {i will just have to wait longer at junctions}had a tvr as well never had any big bills in 4 years same with a 911 {must have been luky}
also how much more do you think these 4200 will drop in price , the one i am looking at fsh new clutch 20k on the clock £17k {can they go much lower}
tuscrv8 said:
4.5 k in one year ! that cant be a normal years running just a one off
if thats the case it may have to be a sterile but dependable porsche {i will just have to wait longer at junctions}had a tvr as well never had any big bills in 4 years same with a 911 {must have been luky}
also how much more do you think these 4200 will drop in price , the one i am looking at fsh new clutch 20k on the clock £17k {can they go much lower}
All I'm saying is it can creep up on you, that £4.5k was in a period of 5 months, all unexpected, and having had plenty of Porsches over a long period of time, I never had to delve particularly deep into my pockets; doing similar low mileages, even though my 911's were no stranger to the track! As for price drops, who's to know, but I'm totally sold on Maserati, and will be hopefully be buying many more.if thats the case it may have to be a sterile but dependable porsche {i will just have to wait longer at junctions}had a tvr as well never had any big bills in 4 years same with a 911 {must have been luky}
also how much more do you think these 4200 will drop in price , the one i am looking at fsh new clutch 20k on the clock £17k {can they go much lower}
I reckon that the average annual cost would be somewhere between £1,500 to £2,000, but you could clearly get hit with something one year that could skew this. I ran my 4200 for 2 years and the only issue I had was that one of my CATs had aparently gone. I say aparently as I declined to take the dealer up on its offer to replace and went to Larini who said there was nothing wrong with it! From what I have heard and my own experience, driving these cars regularly helps reliability, its when they are used infrequently that problems can occur. Go in with your eyes open and you will not regret it. Good luck.
tuscrv8 said:
4.5 k in one year ! that cant be a normal years running just a one off
if thats the case it may have to be a sterile but dependable porsche {i will just have to wait longer at junctions}had a tvr as well never had any big bills in 4 years same with a 911 {must have been luky}
also how much more do you think these 4200 will drop in price , the one i am looking at fsh new clutch 20k on the clock £17k {can they go much lower}
You had a TVR so why not a Maserati? We all know someone who had a TVR/Ferrari/Maserati/Lotus which ruined them with endless problems. But only because the people with problems shout louder than those with big smiles out driving all the time. I always wanted a tuscan but was put off by terrible tales of straight six engine woes my mate had from new. if thats the case it may have to be a sterile but dependable porsche {i will just have to wait longer at junctions}had a tvr as well never had any big bills in 4 years same with a 911 {must have been luky}
also how much more do you think these 4200 will drop in price , the one i am looking at fsh new clutch 20k on the clock £17k {can they go much lower}
Are you one of those people who want something for nothing (waiting for depreciation) AND a guarantee (never to break down) as well? Why do you think they depreciate more than Porsche anyway!!
Buy a good one and you will never look back, nothing beats the sense of occasion. (I have Mas and Pork)
no i dont want something for nothing , i just want to make the best educated decision i can ref the choice of cars
i think i would prefer the 4200 but if the same price 911 is going to cost a lot less to run and be worth more in 3 years it makes it a hard choice
i missed the one i was looking at asi did not know enougth about them but i have seen a few more and i am picking up some usefull info so i can make a decision
i think i would prefer the 4200 but if the same price 911 is going to cost a lot less to run and be worth more in 3 years it makes it a hard choice
i missed the one i was looking at asi did not know enougth about them but i have seen a few more and i am picking up some usefull info so i can make a decision
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