Definitively please; how does the Monaro handbrake work?
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Its been talked about before. I think its some bolt dropping into a hole system, or something like that. Nige you never expected anything technical from me did you
It's been covered loads of times on here. Try the search facility via the pistonheads site. First time I asked was back in 2004:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123928
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123928
GSE said:
It's been covered loads of times on here. Try the search facility via the pistonheads site. First time I asked was back in 2004:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123928
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123928
Unless I missed something, that doesn't actually say how it works.
BigNige said:
GSE said:
It's been covered loads of times on here. Try the search facility via the pistonheads site. First time I asked was back in 2004:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123928
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=123928
Unless I missed something, that doesn't actually say how it works.
Thats true....I could do with an answer too! I've heard "leading edge shoe" mentioned as the reason why the wheel locks solid, I think I understand how it works, but does anyone have a diagram?
stevieturbo said:
why not just stop before it is applied ?? It always baffles me why people yank the handbrake on way before they even stop :S
...because on most normal cars (and every other car I've had) you can apply the handbrake a little before you stop, without scary banging noises from the back end
Question arises why did Holden fit this type of handbrake? Guess it holds better on a downhill slope than a normal brake?
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 8th March 15:17
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 8th March 15:20
As far as I can work out it is a twin leading shoe design. In laymans terms...
As soon as the brake starts to bite that's it. Any further rotation of the wheel, effectively tightens the brake action so it become "on" even more.
Unlike some other sprung designs which allow a little play in the system, there is virtually none in these, hence an almost instant grab point with virtually no gradual bite.
If there is a better (or more accurate) description, please enlighten me!
As soon as the brake starts to bite that's it. Any further rotation of the wheel, effectively tightens the brake action so it become "on" even more.
Unlike some other sprung designs which allow a little play in the system, there is virtually none in these, hence an almost instant grab point with virtually no gradual bite.
If there is a better (or more accurate) description, please enlighten me!
Gas_Man said:
As far as I can work out it is a twin leading shoe design. In laymans terms...
As soon as the brake starts to bite that's it. Any further rotation of the wheel, effectively tightens the brake action so it become "on" even more.
Unlike some other sprung designs which allow a little play in the system, there is virtually none in these, hence an almost instant grab point with virtually no gradual bite.
If there is a better (or more accurate) description, please enlighten me!
As soon as the brake starts to bite that's it. Any further rotation of the wheel, effectively tightens the brake action so it become "on" even more.
Unlike some other sprung designs which allow a little play in the system, there is virtually none in these, hence an almost instant grab point with virtually no gradual bite.
If there is a better (or more accurate) description, please enlighten me!
^^^what he said
I think problems can occur if people try to use the handbrake for helping with drifting or handbrake turns. Due to the instant deceleration of the wheel, it busts the handbrake mechanism some how.
Didn't a few of the early road test cars suffer from broken handbrakes when tested by the car mags(was it one of the TG journos?)
I've ridden bikes though with TLS brakes and they don't lock instantly upon reasonable application.
That picture shows 2 cams which would imply even and thus pressure sensitive application against the drum.
Is there something like an ovoid drum involved or a cam that's extremely aggresive?
You're all getting far to technical..
It's a handbrake! Designed to be used as such, the shoes sit inside the hubs of the rear discs and push out against them when applied. As far as I remember, there are no champfers on either edge of the shoes because they not designed to be used when moving.. Simples....
It's a handbrake! Designed to be used as such, the shoes sit inside the hubs of the rear discs and push out against them when applied. As far as I remember, there are no champfers on either edge of the shoes because they not designed to be used when moving.. Simples....
BigNige said:
Magic919 said:
You aren't taking into account the pivots. The cams push the leading edge into the oncoming drum.
But there's 2 cams and assuming they are activated together then the whole shoe(s) would move in a straight line, rather than end first shirley?Gassing Station | HSV & Monaro | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff