Z4Mc on Autotrader - NO running in service
Z4Mc on Autotrader - NO running in service
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Pulse

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10,922 posts

241 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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If you're thinking of calling about the below car, don't bother. It hasn't had the running in service AT ALL.

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/BMW+...

Slurms

1,254 posts

227 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Looks lovely... But no running in service means the warranty is suddenly in doubt.. so run away...

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

279 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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to be fair thats a damn good price for a 57 even without the warranty!

Pulse

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Friday 13th March 2009
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Slurms said:
Looks lovely... But no running in service means the warranty is suddenly in doubt.. so run away...
Not even in doubt... It's not there! (On the engine, anyway)

Although, perhaps it's not so much of an issue, as the car only has 1.5 years 'warranty' remaining, and the seller has said he will provide 1 year's warranty with it, to cover everything, apparently.

But, you'd never sell it in a few years time!

Pulse

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Nano2nd said:
to be fair thats a damn good price for a 57 even without the warranty!
I really don't think it is. I'd pay £17,000 for it.

Nano2nd

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Friday 13th March 2009
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Pulse said:
Nano2nd said:
to be fair thats a damn good price for a 57 even without the warranty!
I really don't think it is. I'd pay £17,000 for it.
i assume thats a joke? smile

theres a 57 reg IB coupe on the AUC site, okay its done only 4000 miles but its up for 28k IIRC...

is the potential lack of engine warranty and a few K less on resale worth much more than 8k ?

if your keeping it for a while then there won't be any warranty on it in 18 months anyway, in fact that 8k would probably buy you a new engine if the worst came to the worst... is there even one Z4M thats dropped its motor you've heard of? pretty safe gamble.. just MO wink

Pulse

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Nano2nd said:
Pulse said:
Nano2nd said:
to be fair thats a damn good price for a 57 even without the warranty!
I really don't think it is. I'd pay £17,000 for it.
i assume thats a joke? smile

theres a 57 reg IB coupe on the AUC site, okay its done only 4000 miles but its up for 28k IIRC...

is the potential lack of engine warranty and a few K less on resale worth much more than 8k ?

if your keeping it for a while then there won't be any warranty on it in 18 months anyway, in fact that 8k would probably buy you a new engine if the worst came to the worst... is there even one Z4M thats dropped its motor you've heard of? pretty safe gamble.. just MO wink
Possibly, but this isn't a BMW AUC, so it wouldn't be £28k, even with the running in service. There's a black Z4MC on Auto Trader at the moment for 23k iirc, so I would say this is worth 6k less, being reasonable. This hasn't even HAD the service... It isn't LATE! So, it's had the same running in oil (which I believe is different) for 10,000 miles!

When you come to sell it, let's say @ 60k, a potential buyer would be VERY put off, as it hasn't had the foundations for the engine. It's like buying a house built on quicksand, just because it's a bit cheaper.

All in my opinion, of course. As I've said, at 17k, I'd be tempted. (Oh, and I do agree with you - It's actually more than likely a safe bet, but it's in the event that it goes wrong...)

Fidgits

17,202 posts

252 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole personally...

sure its a good price, but i'd like to see the price you'd get come sale time... hell, i wonder what trade in BMW would offer you on it as is?

duckson

1,297 posts

205 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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You wouldnt be able to get an extended warranty on it either.

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duckson said:
You wouldnt be able to get an extended warranty on it either.
Which, so far, everyone that owns an M on here, has said is ESSENTIAL.

Nano2nd

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Friday 13th March 2009
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Pulse said:
duckson said:
You wouldnt be able to get an extended warranty on it either.
Which, so far, everyone that owns an M on here, has said is ESSENTIAL.
i disagree with that, i certainly won't be renewing mine assuming i've still got the car... though i have had mine since almost new and know how its been treated most of its life smile

re the car under discussion, i guess your right the fact that it hasn't had the service at all is certainly worrying... i don't know for sure but was under the impression the "running in" oil is part mineral (all mineral?) as modern synthetic oil is so good(slippy wink) it won't let the engine properly run in - could be cr@p though wink if thats the case then is beeing running on the wrong oil for 10,000 miles! god knows what thats done to the motor, factoring that in i wouldn't even touch it with your 17 grand....

duckson

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Friday 13th March 2009
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Nano i'm with you. smile

M5Dave

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232 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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Nano2nd said:
Pulse said:
duckson said:
You wouldnt be able to get an extended warranty on it either.
Which, so far, everyone that owns an M on here, has said is ESSENTIAL.
i disagree with that, i certainly won't be renewing mine assuming i've still got the car... though i have had mine since almost new and know how its been treated most of its life smile

re the car under discussion, i guess your right the fact that it hasn't had the service at all is certainly worrying... i don't know for sure but was under the impression the "running in" oil is part mineral (all mineral?) as modern synthetic oil is so good(slippy wink) it won't let the engine properly run in - could be cr@p though wink if thats the case then is beeing running on the wrong oil for 10,000 miles! god knows what thats done to the motor, factoring that in i wouldn't even touch it with your 17 grand....
When I bought my M5, the salesman was very keen to point out that the running in service had been done on time. I was told that the running in oil in the M cars is much thinner than the standard stuff to allow the parts to bed in properly.

The M5 has it in the engine, gearbox and diff, so I expect the Z4M will be the same. Without the service it can't be sold as a BMW approved used car, so that will significantly affect any future trade in value at a BMW dealer.

What I find amazing is that someone buys a car like this and can't be bothered to get the running in service done, it doesn't even cost anything.

KENZ

1,229 posts

216 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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What I find amazing is that someone buys a car like this and can't be bothered to get the running in service done, it doesn't even cost anything.
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Agree.Seems to be more common on the Z4M considering the numbers sold ..less so on the E46 M3..It's something they didn't mention when I purchased the car. But having had an E46 M3 I knew how imortant it was to have it done..let alone all the stickers reminding you to carry it out..

Pulse

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Saturday 14th March 2009
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The reason it wasn't done was because it was previously owned by a lease company, and they just simply didn't do it. Madness.