Help Please, ECU needed for 560SEC

Help Please, ECU needed for 560SEC

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graeme36s

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7,035 posts

218 months

Friday 13th March 2009
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It appears the ECU has died on my 560SEC. Could anyone recommend a reliable source for 2nd hand Merc parts. MB part number 0065455432 Bosch part number 0227400701. New price £912.55 plus vat eek.
Any help would be very much appreciated, cheers Graeme

Mikey_W

4,984 posts

227 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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Maybe you could try a company that repairs ECU's? I could supply one direct from Mercedes, send me a email if your interested smile

BrabusK8

48 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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hi

what year is it?

graeme36s

Original Poster:

7,035 posts

218 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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Thanks guys, it is 1988, cheers Graeme

5 wh

1,502 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th March 2009
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Try Dronsfields in Oldham.

http://www.dronsfields.com/

BBA-Reman repair certain ecu's.Maybe contact them too.

http://www.bba-reman.com/uk/index.aspx

Pentoman

4,814 posts

264 months

Sunday 15th March 2009
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I would go for MercMan over dronsfields, on experience they are less likely to shaft you as much.
The car should run fine without an ECU believe it or not (response and cold running will both suffer) so you never know you might be able to wait til one comes along...

Google the part no. because a place sells reman ones and can be found by doing this.

Presume OVP is fine? (it powers the ECU)

graeme36s

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7,035 posts

218 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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Pentoman said:
I would go for MercMan over dronsfields, on experience they are less likely to shaft you as much.
The car should run fine without an ECU believe it or not (response and cold running will both suffer) so you never know you might be able to wait til one comes along...

Google the part no. because a place sells reman ones and can be found by doing this.

Presume OVP is fine? (it powers the ECU)
Thanks Pentoman. My problem is the car will not start. Mechanic has changed the crank sensor so presumes the ECU is kn**red. Excuse my ignorance but what is the OVP? and just maybe he has diagnosed the fault incorrectly, many thanks, Graeme

Pentoman

4,814 posts

264 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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graeme36s said:
Pentoman said:
I would go for MercMan over dronsfields, on experience they are less likely to shaft you as much.
The car should run fine without an ECU believe it or not (response and cold running will both suffer) so you never know you might be able to wait til one comes along...

Google the part no. because a place sells reman ones and can be found by doing this.

Presume OVP is fine? (it powers the ECU)
Thanks Pentoman. My problem is the car will not start. Mechanic has changed the crank sensor so presumes the ECU is kn**red. Excuse my ignorance but what is the OVP? and just maybe he has diagnosed the fault incorrectly, many thanks, Graeme
OK I just wrote a large post which turned out to be wrong because I googled the p/n and it turns out you're talking about the ignition ECU not the injection one. So scrap everything I said. The car will not run at all without an ignition ECU, sorry about the confusion. And I assume your mechanic is smart enough to have checked for a spark and knows its a spark problem!!!

I had a problem with my 190 where, after a gearbox change, the engine wouldn't start presumably because of the crank signal. I checked the signal at starting with an oscilloscope and it was present and correctish. After removal and reinsertion of the sensor it was ok... so that was weird.
The price quoted was the same for the ignition computer for this 190 as well (2.5-16). I had one of these computers fail on my 2.0 190 but it was much cheaper. It failed slowly over a few weeks, sometimes not starting at first then starting okay with a bit of a misfire.

For that cost you could put the money towards a conversion to EFi and get some nice extra economy and power to go with it all!

Or try one of this google search http://www.google.co.uk/search?complete=1&hl=e...

I bet my finger that if you get a ECU from a same year 500 it will work; it's a bit of a bodge however and some of the timing would probably be off :/

good luck

BrabusK8

48 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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hi

If you can get the part number number
Try MSL Centre
0121 772 44 55 ask for ACID

graeme36s

Original Poster:

7,035 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Many thanks guys. BBA Reman cannot repair it so I'll telephone MSL, Dronsfields and Mercman tomorrow. Let you know how I get on, cheers Graeme

5 wh

1,502 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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graeme36s said:
Many thanks guys. BBA Reman cannot repair it so I'll telephone MSL, Dronsfields and Mercman tomorrow. Let you know how I get on, cheers Graeme
BBA Reman need to change their wording in their latest brochure they sent me yesterday which boasts-"ALL Mercedes ECU's repaired"

Pentoman

4,814 posts

264 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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My route would still be to test by using one off a 500 or 420 (if you can borrow one or get one cheapy/scrappy), to be certain it's the ECU before shelling out the wonga for a 560 one.

5 wh

1,502 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Maybe try here too(I have never dealt with them-I just searched ebay)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-560sec-10fuse-sec-5...

graeme36s

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7,035 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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5 wh said:
graeme36s said:
Many thanks guys. BBA Reman cannot repair it so I'll telephone MSL, Dronsfields and Mercman tomorrow. Let you know how I get on, cheers Graeme
BBA Reman need to change their wording in their latest brochure they sent me yesterday which boasts-"ALL Mercedes ECU's repaired"
The mechanic who is a good mate I saw yesterday for our usual Saturday morning lunchtime get together. I mentioned that I had spoken to BBA Reman and would ring on Monday when their workshop is open. He said don't bother, I sent the ECU their for them to repair. They confirmed that the ECU is the problem but could not repair it frown

graeme36s

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7,035 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Finally bought a used unit today from "cars with stars" based in musswell hill. Identical part number and the chap ran the car up before removing the ecu. £350 not cheap but a third of the price of a new one smile.