porsche '44 turbo - left standing - advice req
porsche '44 turbo - left standing - advice req
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lordlee

Original Poster:

3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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hello,

i have been offered a '1990 turbo with 42k genuine on it. its been standing for at least 7months and previosly only been run very infrequently. the chap is looking at around 7.5k after he has prepped it back to working order. my questions are: a) is the price sounding ok, its pretty much book for a car with no service history. b) what things are more likely to go wrong with a car that has been standing?

your replies are appreciated.

lee

dmsims

7,370 posts

291 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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7 months isn't too bad, you may have some leaks (from hatch)

I would squirt some oil down the spark plug holes b4 starting, change all fluids (brake, gearbox, coolant, lsd)

The price sounds pretty good, what is the condition of the car like?

>> Edited by dmsims on Monday 10th November 11:19

lordlee

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3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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the car is in good condition. basically the chap has had it in his yard for 5yrs and run it about here and there but never far. the car was booked in 5yrs ago for a new rear 3/4 panel and the chap did the work plus some other bits but the guy never collected the car and when he was asked for payment he released the car. it sounds longwinded but the guy who has got it is a friend and i know him to be trustworthy. anyways he is respraying the whole thing and making sure everything is working. i'm just worried about reliability of gaskets etc.

dmsims

7,370 posts

291 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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In terms of inspecting b4 purchase try here

www.clarks-garage.com

I would check the coolant for oil and vice versa, pay attention to the boost gauge and how that behaves, and all the electrics

Good luck

steve 944t

143 posts

271 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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I would be a bit wary of oil seals etc. Replacing the cambelt would be a must.
The price sounds ok-ish for such a low mileage car but the lack of any proof to document the mileage may damage the eventual resale value. So long as you intend to keep it for a while that shouldnt matter too much.

lordlee

Original Poster:

3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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thanks for your replies. just after a bit of reassurance i suppose. i guess i shall just bite the bullet and buy it then!!

do you own a '44? i take it you have had experience of one as you mentioned the hatch leaking. most common fault i understand!!

lordlee

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3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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steve,

what are your thoughts on your 944t? do you have any advice on good mods etc. i hear the boost enhancer etc are the best mods.

have you had any problems with yours?

steve 944t

143 posts

271 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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I have only had mine a couple of months but absolutely love it. I have had no problems so far, apart from a few annoying rattles. But that is to be expected from a 15 year old car. The hatch leaked a bit, but a new seal (approx £30) has fixed that.
Mine already had the boost enhancer fitted so i cant comment on what they are like without it.
There is a 944 mailing list, where you can find the answers to anything 944. Go to www.titanic.co.uk and follow the links.
Re mods, the most popular seems to be a gururacing chip from the States, which ups power to somewhere near 300BHP for approx $300. There are several guys on the mailing list who have gone this route and seem very happy with it.
Anything else you need to know, ask away!

lordlee

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3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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thanks for the info on the list!! sounds like you are another turbo fan!! i have driven a few and found them all to be excellent fun.
i'd like to know if you have down any body mods as i was looking to smooth the look by removing all the rubbing strips etc. the car already has clear front indicators that look much nicer to me. i found the h/lights to be a little poor, is this the case you have found?
also the car has 968 mirrors and 911 gt3 rims. it looks rather like this one www.diateam.no/porsche/
except its in arena red metallic from the 993 era.

steve 944t

143 posts

271 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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The lights aren't exactly the best feature! I am sure the bulbs can be uprated but I havent looked into that yet. The bodywork on mine is all standard and i will probably keep it that way, but I may change the orange indicators as they do spoil it a bit.
I do love the turbo rush but it is a bit of an on-off switch. I am used to Impreza turbos which are quite progressive. With the 944 there is nothing below about 3500 rpm and then all hell brakes loose. All in all the car has exceeded my expectations.

lordlee

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3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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did you get a chance to see the diateam version? bar the huge spoiler and the big double exhausts it looks nice enough.
the clear lenses side/front make the '44 look a lot more modern. also the 968 mirrors are very much nicer looking than the standard items.
www.essentialstyling.com/944_styling.htm
these chaps do a nice line in front indivators.

steve 944t

143 posts

271 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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that diateam car does look good. I love the wheels!
Cheers for the link. I will get some indicators ordered as like you say, bright orange lenses do look a bit out of place on a black Porsche!

lordlee

Original Poster:

3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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good luck with the indicators, they look very nice on the black ones.

hope you enjoy your '44, tiff needell sure says they are good enough!

speak soon.

dontlift

9,396 posts

282 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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Also,

Make sure you drain the fuel - before starting and refill the tank with nice fresh fuel

lordlee

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3,137 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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good point, didnt think of that!!

dontlift

9,396 posts

282 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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lordlee said:
good point, didnt think of that!!
I can go waxy and block up injectors etc so best bet to get rid of it before you start

james

1,362 posts

308 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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Yep. Change all the fluids before even trying to start the car. 7 months shouldn't have done too much harm, but it's always better to be safe.

And when you start driving it, take it gently like you were running in a new car. Overdo it too soon and those dried out oil seals might leak. Get them working gently, and you might well be ok.

James

Thhom

1,742 posts

271 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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I'm not well aware of UK prices, but to me £7.5k for a clean late turbo 250 with so few miles sounds like an absolute steal.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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You are all intelligent well educated people. But sometimes I do wonder. The words genuine, mileage and no service history can never be used in the same sentence. Forget the number on the speedo. Would you still buy the car if it had 150k on the speedo. If you would then buy it. If you wouldn`t then walk away. There is now way you can prove the provenence of a random number with no history. The car is 13 years old. Assuming it`s been in the bodyshop (after sustaining damaged that required at the very least a new rear quarter panel by the sound of things) it was still 8 years old when it went in.

Make bloody sure the bloke selling the car does actually own it. It sounds awfully messy. He may be a top dude and your best mate but the law is the law and you may find he`d rather kiss goodbye to your friendship rather than his £7,500 if the car gets taken off you.

Make sure you not only check the car with HPI for outstanding finance / insurance total loss / stolen info but look at all the numbers on the car and make sure they are genuine and that the car doesn`t show signs of damage. Do you know what those numbers should look like and what those signs would be ?

Go steady !

Henry

AndyS2

869 posts

282 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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Wise words mate!!