Protech shocks
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Has anyone had any problems with these? I desperately need a new set of shocks, and am going to order some this week for the Phoenix. I would love Nitron or Tracksapx, but cannot justify £1.000+ right now. A few mates have been impressed by them on the road, they are no.1 option right now. £400 ish, aluminium and spherical bearings.
Furyblade_Lee said:
Has anyone had any problems with these? I desperately need a new set of shocks, and am going to order some this week for the Phoenix. I would love Nitron or Tracksapx, but cannot justify £1.000+ right now. A few mates have been impressed by them on the road, they are no.1 option right now. £400 ish, aluminium and spherical bearings.
In my opinion they are very good and you wont have any problems. They can be run inverted too if you need that for clearances etc. Excellent service and fantastic price too. Go direct to them and speak to Kevin who is really helpful.
Lee a friend of mine has these (Kriss with the MK). When setting his car up, I was advised by someone in the know who is a Protech dealer that the basic spec dampers do not come matched and there is a very high likelyhood that they would need re-valving so they are matched.
If this is not done, you might run 3 clicks one side, and 6 on the other just to give them the same bump and rebound characteristics, which of course will give you all sorts of problems when setting up.
I think this unmatched damper problem is limited to the bottom range dampers as these are the ones that come with the MK Indy in order to keep costs down. In any case, I would have them checked and balanced all the same by whoever you purchase them from. Once you know they are accurate to eachother, you'll have a much better time when clicking them around.
If this is not done, you might run 3 clicks one side, and 6 on the other just to give them the same bump and rebound characteristics, which of course will give you all sorts of problems when setting up.
I think this unmatched damper problem is limited to the bottom range dampers as these are the ones that come with the MK Indy in order to keep costs down. In any case, I would have them checked and balanced all the same by whoever you purchase them from. Once you know they are accurate to eachother, you'll have a much better time when clicking them around.
as long as your only contact with protech is by phone its ok.
even for my 2nd order they dont see any necessity to reply to my emails, no confirmation and nothing happens as long as YOU do not phone them and demand to read the email!!
and as long as the reason for phoning-back hasnt to do with money they wouldnt even contact you by phone.
often i think such companies want to safe money....ok, i live abroad, but its possible also to phone abroad for a very low rate (its costs me 0,5cent/min to phone to UK!!!!). if they dont know how to do it...thats not the clients problem!!
normally a customer service looks like that: client has a request, so the 1st contact is made by the client. for all the rest, the seller has to care.
even for my 2nd order they dont see any necessity to reply to my emails, no confirmation and nothing happens as long as YOU do not phone them and demand to read the email!!
and as long as the reason for phoning-back hasnt to do with money they wouldnt even contact you by phone.
often i think such companies want to safe money....ok, i live abroad, but its possible also to phone abroad for a very low rate (its costs me 0,5cent/min to phone to UK!!!!). if they dont know how to do it...thats not the clients problem!!
normally a customer service looks like that: client has a request, so the 1st contact is made by the client. for all the rest, the seller has to care.
Yep, i will definately check they are matched. Cannot find my hugely expensive chassis dynometer in my garage, must have misplaced it! It infuriates me that someone would even contemplate selling damper sets which are not matched, no logic in that whatsoever no matter how cheap they are. It would worry me too, considering that they should all have identical components in, that one side would need twice as many clicks to give the same performance as another, especially as they are brand new. Manufacturing tolerances??? Sounds shocking to me, i would not put dampers like that anywhere near my car.
Josh, not sure if mine is the lowered chassis, if it is a similar concept to the Fury lowered chassis with different brackets for the suspension then no, i think it is just the regular lightweight IRS chassis. It has had some extra strengthening added to the rear chassis before i bought it, i believe the diff carrier cracked with a 20 STONE(!) passenger when hooning around an airbase!!! All done under warranty i believe and and was incorporated into the new design of chassis after.
Josh, not sure if mine is the lowered chassis, if it is a similar concept to the Fury lowered chassis with different brackets for the suspension then no, i think it is just the regular lightweight IRS chassis. It has had some extra strengthening added to the rear chassis before i bought it, i believe the diff carrier cracked with a 20 STONE(!) passenger when hooning around an airbase!!! All done under warranty i believe and and was incorporated into the new design of chassis after.
Furyblade_Lee said:
Yep, i will definately check they are matched. Cannot find my hugely expensive chassis dynometer in my garage, must have misplaced it! It infuriates me that someone would even contemplate selling damper sets which are not matched, no logic in that whatsoever no matter how cheap they are. It would worry me too, considering that they should all have identical components in, that one side would need twice as many clicks to give the same performance as another, especially as they are brand new. Manufacturing tolerances??? Sounds shocking to me, i would not put dampers like that anywhere near my car.
Josh, not sure if mine is the lowered chassis, if it is a similar concept to the Fury lowered chassis with different brackets for the suspension then no, i think it is just the regular lightweight IRS chassis. It has had some extra strengthening added to the rear chassis before i bought it, i believe the diff carrier cracked with a 20 STONE(!) passenger when hooning around an airbase!!! All done under warranty i believe and and was incorporated into the new design of chassis after.
You'll never get cheap dampers identical, heck you can't even get expensive dampers identical! The protech damping issue might stem from the ability to independently rotate and lock the bleed spindle relative to the knurled adjuster knob. All the supplier will be doing is to make sure that the damping characteristic for damper pairs are similar for each click. I have my protechs made bespoke and never ever have any problems with dampers mismatched, within normal working tolerances. Like I say Ive dynoed lots of dampers, even high end one costing thousands, and when you overlay the curves they are rarely identical, but close enough Josh, not sure if mine is the lowered chassis, if it is a similar concept to the Fury lowered chassis with different brackets for the suspension then no, i think it is just the regular lightweight IRS chassis. It has had some extra strengthening added to the rear chassis before i bought it, i believe the diff carrier cracked with a 20 STONE(!) passenger when hooning around an airbase!!! All done under warranty i believe and and was incorporated into the new design of chassis after.
Some cheap dampers though are absolutely shocking at their inconsistency click for click. Protech (IMO) are far better than the norm at their price level, theyre also reliable and don't squeak/knock .. I love them spitfire4v8 said:
Furyblade_Lee said:
Yep, i will definately check they are matched. Cannot find my hugely expensive chassis dynometer in my garage, must have misplaced it! It infuriates me that someone would even contemplate selling damper sets which are not matched, no logic in that whatsoever no matter how cheap they are. It would worry me too, considering that they should all have identical components in, that one side would need twice as many clicks to give the same performance as another, especially as they are brand new. Manufacturing tolerances??? Sounds shocking to me, i would not put dampers like that anywhere near my car.
Josh, not sure if mine is the lowered chassis, if it is a similar concept to the Fury lowered chassis with different brackets for the suspension then no, i think it is just the regular lightweight IRS chassis. It has had some extra strengthening added to the rear chassis before i bought it, i believe the diff carrier cracked with a 20 STONE(!) passenger when hooning around an airbase!!! All done under warranty i believe and and was incorporated into the new design of chassis after.
You'll never get cheap dampers identical, heck you can't even get expensive dampers identical! Josh, not sure if mine is the lowered chassis, if it is a similar concept to the Fury lowered chassis with different brackets for the suspension then no, i think it is just the regular lightweight IRS chassis. It has had some extra strengthening added to the rear chassis before i bought it, i believe the diff carrier cracked with a 20 STONE(!) passenger when hooning around an airbase!!! All done under warranty i believe and and was incorporated into the new design of chassis after.
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