Wins to decide world champion in 2009
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autosport.com said:
Formula One's world champion in 2009 will be the driver with the biggest number of wins during the season, the FIA said on Tuesday
The FIA said it had rejected a proposal by FOTA to change the current system.
The world champion will be the driver who wins the most races in a season.
A back-up points system will be used in case two or more drivers win the same amount of races during a year.
The Constructors' Championship remains unaffected by the changes.
"The WMSC accepted the proposal from Formula One Management to award the drivers' championship to the driver who has won the most races during the season," said the FIA in a statement.
"If two or more drivers finish the season with the same number of wins, the title will be awarded to the driver with the most points, the allocation of points being based on the current 10, 8, 6 etc. system.
"The rest of the standings, from second to last place, will be decided by the current points system. There is no provision to award medals for first, second or third place. The Constructors' Championship is unaffected.
"The WMSC rejected the alternative proposal from the Formula One Teams' Association to change the points awarded to drivers finishing in first, second and third place to 12, 9 and 7 points respectively. "
Sounds like a good change to me. Should see some exciting finishes for once The FIA said it had rejected a proposal by FOTA to change the current system.
The world champion will be the driver who wins the most races in a season.
A back-up points system will be used in case two or more drivers win the same amount of races during a year.
The Constructors' Championship remains unaffected by the changes.
"The WMSC accepted the proposal from Formula One Management to award the drivers' championship to the driver who has won the most races during the season," said the FIA in a statement.
"If two or more drivers finish the season with the same number of wins, the title will be awarded to the driver with the most points, the allocation of points being based on the current 10, 8, 6 etc. system.
"The rest of the standings, from second to last place, will be decided by the current points system. There is no provision to award medals for first, second or third place. The Constructors' Championship is unaffected.
"The WMSC rejected the alternative proposal from the Formula One Teams' Association to change the points awarded to drivers finishing in first, second and third place to 12, 9 and 7 points respectively. "
One downfall I can see.
What if Driver 'A' wins 8 races but fails to finish any others....and Driver 'B' wins 7 races but finishes second in the rest?
On a normal points system driver 'B' would win the WDC by a huge margin, however he'll lose it based on this new charade.
This new system is crap. And unfair.
What if Driver 'A' wins 8 races but fails to finish any others....and Driver 'B' wins 7 races but finishes second in the rest?
On a normal points system driver 'B' would win the WDC by a huge margin, however he'll lose it based on this new charade.
This new system is crap. And unfair.
Cara Van Man said:
One downfall I can see.
What if Driver 'A' wins 8 races but fails to finish any others....and Driver 'B' wins 7 races but finishes second in the rest?
On a normal points system driver 'B' would win the WDC by a huge margin, however he'll lose it based on this new charade.
This new system is crap. And unfair.
I agree totally. Imagine them doing this in football. Just like draws are part of football, coming second or third or even rescuing a couple of points after a puncture etc. is part of F1.What if Driver 'A' wins 8 races but fails to finish any others....and Driver 'B' wins 7 races but finishes second in the rest?
On a normal points system driver 'B' would win the WDC by a huge margin, however he'll lose it based on this new charade.
This new system is crap. And unfair.
This is all because the FIA didn't want Lewis to win the title last year. How sad.
Couldn't disagree more, 5 wins and 12 2nd places will now lose to 6 wins and 11 DNF's a riduculous state of affairs. Somebody with one lucky win in year will finish above people with good solid consistent seasons.
This isn't the olympics where it's all down the performance on the day, it's a season and consistency should count. Each grand prix in itself is an event and winning that and top points is reward enough.
This isn't the olympics where it's all down the performance on the day, it's a season and consistency should count. Each grand prix in itself is an event and winning that and top points is reward enough.
Another side effect is that teams will build 'one race' engines.
It will force them to go for the win in every other race with a stonker of an engine. That way they could potentially win half the races thus tying up the WDC and being unbeatable.
How crap, forcing a team to try to win 'half' the races from the outset.
It will force them to go for the win in every other race with a stonker of an engine. That way they could potentially win half the races thus tying up the WDC and being unbeatable.
How crap, forcing a team to try to win 'half' the races from the outset.
Also how many unnecessary accidents are there going to be, because lets face it if the top 2 in the championship are battling for the win, and 2nd is worth nothing, you are inviting people to take silly risks to get passed as they have nothing to lose. May be a few people sat in 3rd position will get lucky late on in races this season.
Under the old points system, how many times do you get 3/4 in to a race and everyone just settles for where they are? The old points system know one raced to the flag. With a "winner takes all" approach we are more likely to see some close and feisty finished. I prefer the Lewis/Kimi type fight at the closing stages of Spa to the play it safe approach Lewis took during his first season.
WHAT A DISASTER!!!!
Just when we thought things were looking up that prick Max 'the spank' Moseley has got his own way again! This is worst than having adverts...
What incentive is there for the lower places in a race, what if a driver wins the first 9 races in the season? He can take an early holiday as there is no point in the team even bothering to turn up!
I can not believe this rule has got through. The drivers don't like it, the teams don't like it and the REAL fans of F1 hate it with a passion.
Why did the FIA headed up by that prick 'the spank' bother to canvas the fans last year, we all knew he would take no notice.
Can this be turned around in time to prevent F1 looking like a joke yet again...
I'm soooooooo angry as this season was building up to a great showcase for F1.
Just when we thought things were looking up that prick Max 'the spank' Moseley has got his own way again! This is worst than having adverts...
What incentive is there for the lower places in a race, what if a driver wins the first 9 races in the season? He can take an early holiday as there is no point in the team even bothering to turn up!
I can not believe this rule has got through. The drivers don't like it, the teams don't like it and the REAL fans of F1 hate it with a passion.
Why did the FIA headed up by that prick 'the spank' bother to canvas the fans last year, we all knew he would take no notice.
Can this be turned around in time to prevent F1 looking like a joke yet again...
I'm soooooooo angry as this season was building up to a great showcase for F1.
Thurbs said:
Under the old points system, how many times do you get 3/4 in to a race and everyone just settles for where they are? The old points system know one raced to the flag. With a "winner takes all" approach we are more likely to see some close and feisty finished. I prefer the Lewis/Kimi type fight at the closing stages of Spa to the play it safe approach Lewis took during his first season.
And what happened there? There was a proper battle for position, so they punished the winner. Will give the already corrupt FIA even more scope to influence the championship with it being decided on such a narrow criteriaThurbs said:
Under the old points system, how many times do you get 3/4 in to a race and everyone just settles for where they are? The old points system know one raced to the flag. With a "winner takes all" approach we are more likely to see some close and feisty finished. I prefer the Lewis/Kimi type fight at the closing stages of Spa to the play it safe approach Lewis took during his first season.
The FOTA proposal to change the points structure would have incentivised drivers to go for it more - with a greater difference between 1-2-3.Bluequay said:
And what happened there? There was a proper battle for position, so they punished the winner. Will give the already corrupt FIA even more scope to influence the championship with it being decided on such a narrow criteria
Agreed, the reds will always be helped out by the FIA. Overall though I think it is a good thing, only time will tell. Lets hope Jenson wins the first 8 races then! He can go on holiday for the second half of the season... or give his seat to Bruno Senna!
Its a joke, the FIA survey showed that fans didn't want a medals system, which effectively this is, FOTA tried to increase the incentive for wins to 12 points and YET STILL these morons persist...
It will dilute the interest in the drivers championship race through out the majority of the season - a lot of so so fans will only tune in come the end of the year when a clearer picture emerges.
As for us hardcore fans.. well who gives a sh!t what we think eh?
Its a joke, the FIA survey showed that fans didn't want a medals system, which effectively this is, FOTA tried to increase the incentive for wins to 12 points and YET STILL these morons persist...
It will dilute the interest in the drivers championship race through out the majority of the season - a lot of so so fans will only tune in come the end of the year when a clearer picture emerges.
As for us hardcore fans.. well who gives a sh!t what we think eh?
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