exhaust group buy who,s interested ??
exhaust group buy who,s interested ??
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TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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been in touch today with Hayward and Scott ref a replacement rear box system , the plan is to keep original down pipes with cats ,just get rid of the Y piece and go to a 2 box system . looks like price will be somewhere in the £500-£600 bracket ,i have delt with H&S before and the quality is spot on if you are interested let me know or add name to list .Simon


Tuxman .

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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thats the way to do it - what are the tail pipe options ?

is it a direct fit, or needs to be fabricated on the car ?

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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£500-£600 seems miles better value for money than some quotes I've seen in the past. I know you get what you pay for and I know you'll need a remap afterwards but even so it's a pretty decent price.

I would be interested at that kind of price.
Would also be interested to know if it's a direct fit.

Edited by NobleGuy on Wednesday 18th March 17:37

Duke Thrust

1,680 posts

268 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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I'd be interested, what are the benefits of the H&S system?

S26VE P

2,174 posts

271 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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H & S are 5 mins down the road from me, if they need a template car. wink Could possibly be interested. Lets not forget we will need a remap after tho. wink

mr-manners

185 posts

214 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Good work Simon clap

Definately interested

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Will this be the same for both the 2.5 and the 3l. And will it come with Gaskets?

And why we are on the subject, I was always led to belive the 3l exhaust will not fit a 2.5 but I have seen one fitted. I belive its the orientation of the flange to the turbo (but I'm told the turbos can be spun so they can be aligned.

Bondy

TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Ok guys , good response !!! we are hoping it will be a direct fit without any mods to the existing pipe work , gaskets will not be a problem as i have a good supply also stainless cap head bolts with washes and nuts are not a problem also !!!

they make a jig up so they should bolt straight on no need for special fitting ,

Big question !!! will the cars need re-mapping ???? at this stage its not part of my plan !! will add a fair lump of cash to the bill !!! i was thinking that would not be needed !!

Edited by TuxMan on Wednesday 18th March 19:45

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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another question; Whats happening with Mike Tuckwoods exhaust work? I think a few are waiting to hear about this... smile

TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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i Bondy ,don,t know about the 2.5 but if you keep your down pipes do they finish in the same place as the 3L car ?

did not no about Mike doing exhaust stuff ?? no rush on our end if mike want to do something .

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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I'm up for a new exhaust, have the pump / LSD and remap in the wings ready to go.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Mike made loads of power with the std exhaust in place - he maxed out the turbo's long before the exhaust

i will offer to Dyno test a car before and after the exhaust is fitted to see if a remap is needed

art411y

832 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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mgbond said:
Will this be the same for both the 2.5 and the 3l. And will it come with Gaskets?

And why we are on the subject, I was always led to belive the 3l exhaust will not fit a 2.5 but I have seen one fitted. I belive its the orientation of the flange to the turbo (but I'm told the turbos can be spun so they can be aligned.

Bondy
i ve put an m400 exhaust from andrewr from this site.the only problem i had was i had to use the original cat for the rear turbo as the m400 one is too shallow to fit.i still carnt for the life of me see why a fairly simple design exhaust can be so expensive.even if id won the lottery there would be absolute no way i would pay over 2k for one.600 pounds for a couple of backboxes is well enough also.ive made numerous exhausts and manifolds for friends over the years with t304 polished stainless and even the most intricate design has never been over200 pounds for materials.when my manifolds crack and exhaust expires i think the old workshop tools and jigs will make a return

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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Funny you should say that as there are people on here already in the design stage for 3l and 2.5 manifolds for less than a single noble one but for a pair.

Thanks for the Info Art, so the 3ltr one will fit and they can use my old cat if its different (I don't think the 3R one is).

Bondy

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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BCA said:
another question; Whats happening with Mike Tuckwoods exhaust work? I think a few are waiting to hear about this... smile
It's been shuffled down the schedule a little as I'm not swapping it out until I know that it's the sticking point within the system.
We've had a (relatively easy) 650BHP through our own design single 3" system (Subaru Impreza) on a 2.5L engine, so despite the poor flow design of the factory pipework, I expect it will do quite well.

I have 2 x Turbo's (550HP rated) and bigger injectors ready to drop in, but need to put a decent clutch in first. redface So far the OEM exhaust hasn't been a limiting factor in the power chasing stakes.
I also need to replace my radiator which has leaked since I got the car.


So, while there are better ways to get power for a car with the factory exhaust, I anticipate changing it to a twin system at some point in the future anyway. With ever tightening track noise restrictions,consideration will also be given to dB levels and weight.


Mike.


Edited by Mike Tuckwood on Thursday 19th March 07:53

art411y

832 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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mgbond said:
Funny you should say that as there are people on here already in the design stage for 3l and 2.5 manifolds for less than a single noble one but for a pair.

Thanks for the Info Art, so the 3ltr one will fit and they can use my old cat if its different (I don't think the 3R one is).

Bondy
had both the 3litre and m400 exhaust and they both fitted fine.if you havent done it before it takes around 3hrs to take off and refit as long as the studs come out fairly easy

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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[quote=TuxMan]Big question !!! will the cars need re-mapping ????[quote]

Possibly/probably. It may turn out it's not needed bu personally I would just to be on the safe side. Don't think a remap is massively expensive.

sjc

16,397 posts

299 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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mgbond said:
Funny you should say that as there are people on here already in the design stage for 3l and 2.5 manifolds for less than a single noble one but for a pair.

Thanks for the Info Art, so the 3ltr one will fit and they can use my old cat if its different (I don't think the 3R one is).

Bondy
Whoever that is please hurry up, I'm just waiting to hear if I need a new rear manifold at 430 quid plus fitting!

Edited to add I "might" be interested in backboxes as well.Have used them before and went down to get a price for a full system last year, but by the time you'd added sports cats and the like , wasn't far off the Roush price so I left it.

Edited by sjc on Thursday 19th March 09:05

S26VE P

2,174 posts

271 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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Wont go into too much detail until anything confirmed and will leave that to Tuxman But im visiting haywood and scott tommorow morning so they can look at designs etc. anyone want me to ask anything? Will ask about tailpipe options etc.

TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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Good luck Steve , hope everything goes ok !!!