Has anyone done the HND or Degree in civil engineering?

Has anyone done the HND or Degree in civil engineering?

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J381

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534 posts

189 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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As above.

Im looking for a bit of advice on both because im finishing my HNC the now and trying to figure out what my next move should be.

Cheers.

pimpin gimp

3,284 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I've done an HND, and I'm currently doing my BSc part time at UWE Bristol.

I'd consider doing as much of the course as you can, I regret not continuing at Uni when I did my HND (2004) as it's much harder to find time when you're working as well.

Now you've got the HNC it's only 2 years full time to get the BSc, I'd continue. Just remember that once you get a job you need toforget everything you've learnt so you can learn how to di it the correct way.

pimpin gimp

3,284 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Oh, and this should be in the P&P. smile

clanger

1,087 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Go for the degree asap, before you forget what you've learnt at HNC wink - if you want to become a Chartered Engineer its a lot easier route with a degree.

Lefty Guns

16,177 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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It's all surely about getting a better job and I bet the degree will get you into more cash (and nicer cars) more quickly.

Do it!

And congratulations for doing a "real" course and not media studies or burger management.

a boardman

1,316 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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what do you want to know, I work in a structural engineers so plenty of people to ask, we have people who lecture at Bolton here and most of the engineers are ex arups and buro happold.

pembo

1,204 posts

194 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Go straight for the BSc/BEng not really much point in going for the HND because you wouldn't be improving much on what you have. I went straight in to a HND and left with that, I've now been working for nearly 4 years and keep saying I'll do the degree but never get round to it, I will some day. Leaving with A HND/C will put you in as a Technician or Assistant Engineer if you're lucky, at the moment it's pretty hard to get a job as a technician as well so you would be better off sticking at it a bit longer, getting the degree and coming in as a graduate when everything has calmed down a bit. Graduate engineer money is much better to start with as well, with a HND/C and no experiance they will pay you a lot less than a graduate and its harder to get onto a properly approved post-grad education. The degree will get you much higher much faster but there's more calcs and less wandering in fields and drawing pictures from my experience smile

cqueen

2,620 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I'm doing a foundation degree in civils 1 day a week. Its slightly higher credits than an HND and can be topped up to a degree with an extra 2 years part time.
Which allows me to earn cash and study.

Si 330

1,299 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I did the OND then HND in Civils, what do you want to be in the long run? If you want to be chartered you have to do the degree, the days of HNC route are long gone you get pushed down the incorporated route. Also if you want to be an engineer, if you do the long route with the same company it is quiet hard to be considered as an engineer people will still see you as a technician. A lot will depend on the company you work for how structured they are. I have found that in a lot of companies there is little difference in project work and salary between a senior technician and an engineer it's all down to the individual you tend to find the smaller the company the less barriers.

TomE

1,252 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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I did civil engineering at Leeds. Just so you know, if you are planning on becoming incorporated/chartered it's worth checking out if the course you are interested in is accredited by the engineering council, otherwise you'll have a whole host of problems convincing them that the course was up to standard.

You can check here by filling in the details:
http://www.engc.org.uk/registration/acad/search.as...

Oh, and you pretty much need to do a Masters now to get chartered, unless you want to go the long winded technical report route.

Anything else specific you want to know?

ETA - the Eng council link

Edited by TomE on Thursday 19th March 22:14

TomE

1,252 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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a boardman said:
are ex arups and buro happold.
ooooo, are you counted as being special if you work at one of those institutions?!

If so... Thanks! beer

Si 330

1,299 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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TomE said:
a boardman said:
are ex arups and buro happold.
ooooo, are you counted as being special if you work at one of those institutions?!

If so... Thanks! beer
What happens if you have both on your CVsmile
And it's Arup no s

Edited by Si 330 on Thursday 19th March 22:18

nail_it

968 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Si 330 said:
TomE said:
a boardman said:
are ex arups and buro happold.
ooooo, are you counted as being special if you work at one of those institutions?!

If so... Thanks! beer
What happens if you have both on your CVsmile
And it's Arup no s

Edited by Si 330 on Thursday 19th March 22:18
Oooooooooooooooo...............and what if you have Arup, Buro and Atkins bowtie

TomE

1,252 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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nail_it said:
Si 330 said:
TomE said:
a boardman said:
are ex arups and buro happold.
ooooo, are you counted as being special if you work at one of those institutions?!

If so... Thanks! beer
What happens if you have both on your CVsmile
And it's Arup no s

Edited by Si 330 on Thursday 19th March 22:18
Oooooooooooooooo...............and what if you have Arup, Buro and Atkins bowtie
Show off, I only have two of those. Obviously its something for me to achieve in life though.....

Si 330

1,299 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Atkins.......... ummmmm you keep quiet.

bitwrx

1,352 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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TomE said:
if you are planning on becoming incorporated/chartered it's worth checking out if the course you are interested in is accredited by the engineering council,
yes

Make sure you do a degree accredited by the appropriate professional institution (ICE or IStructE for civils????), otherwise it won't be worth the eggshell textured card it's printed on.

OK maybe not that bad, but definitely worth going on an accredited course if you want to become chartered.

mike325112

1,070 posts

185 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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nail_it said:
Si 330 said:
TomE said:
a boardman said:
are ex arups and buro happold.
ooooo, are you counted as being special if you work at one of those institutions?!

If so... Thanks! beer
What happens if you have both on your CVsmile
And it's Arup no s

Edited by Si 330 on Thursday 19th March 22:18
Oooooooooooooooo...............and what if you have Arup, Buro and Atkins bowtie
You have moved around too much and are clearly a troublemaker! wink
Editted to actually post what I wanted to as well as take the wee wee. I did HNC civils and moved to a different dicipline. Nearly at the end of a part time degree, ots been 6 VERY long years. If you have the opertuinity/funding then I would do the 2 years civils full time. I would do that if I had my time again.

Edited by mike325112 on Thursday 19th March 22:36

nail_it

968 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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mike325112 said:
nail_it said:
Si 330 said:
TomE said:
a boardman said:
are ex arups and buro happold.
ooooo, are you counted as being special if you work at one of those institutions?!

If so... Thanks! beer
What happens if you have both on your CVsmile
And it's Arup no s

Edited by Si 330 on Thursday 19th March 22:18
Oooooooooooooooo...............and what if you have Arup, Buro and Atkins bowtie
You have moved around too much and are clearly a troublemaker! wink
You know me rofl

Got to make the moves to get up the ladder & onto the top projects, boring otherwise. wink

car.chic

5,993 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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This is not about Civil Engineering but a question about the Incorporated Engineer / Chartered Engineer status, the degree I am due to commence in September (Motorsport Technology) apprantely (according to the university) covers the academic requirement for Incorporated Engineer (not sure which professional body though - mechanical I presume?), yet it is not showing up on the Engineering Council as being accredited, does this mean my degree is not accredited and what difference does it make?

Hope someone can help. smile

Skyedriver

17,959 posts

283 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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Maybe i'm just an old cynic but I did ONC then HNC in the '70s. Wouldn't recomend Civil Engineering to my worst enemy