Lights to turn red for speeding drivers...

Lights to turn red for speeding drivers...

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CarZee

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13,382 posts

268 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=500134&in_review_text_id=462718
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A speed trap that halts motorists instead of fining them could be the next weapon against those who drive too fast.

It detects the speed of drivers as they approach traffic lights and automatically switches the lights to red if the speed limit is being broken.

What do they take to enable them to come up with these ideas?

I like the "instead of a fine" bit though..

Something tells me the government won't go for this anyway, as it doesn't make money..

Leithen

10,914 posts

268 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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That's going to keep the Black Cabs really happy....

Whoozit

3,607 posts

270 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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That mechanism has been in use in Spain for donkey's years. It really does work in slowing down traffic through town. If there are lights every couple of hundred metres, as there are in most UK towns and cities, if you _knew_ that each one would turn red if you were speeding, and it did so significantly before you could reach it, could you honestly be bothered to speed-slow for sensor-speed again?

MattC

266 posts

276 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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A lot of town-centre lights round my way seem programmed to ENCOURAGE speeding. If you're first in the queue, and you NAIL it on green, you'll make the next set. How can THAT be sensible?

hertsbiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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great idea !
Anything that gets around fines+points, provided it ain't bumps, is cool.

Wonder if it really works that quickly? some of the "slow down" signs I have seen don't pick up approaching bikes until the last second...

Stealth paint is what we need.

s2ooz

3,005 posts

285 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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sounds like a good idea to me. it means traffic jams= slow moving traffic gets priority, therefore removing the jam. and encouraging sensible speed at the same time.

I like a whizz, but I slow down approaching lights due to the dangerous that surround them, so quiet happy with the idea.

thought you guys would appreciate these?

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Monday 18th February 2002
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You might as well drive bloody quickly to miss the changing red lights!

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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All the lights round my way seem to be designed to keep traffic stationary for as long as possible.

Let one lane go 4 seconds

EEveryone stopped 20 seconds

Pedsetrians cross (even when no one there!) 4 minutes

Let right filter go 2 seconds

etc.

OK slight exageration but not by much!

griff2be

5,089 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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Hasn't this existed in one form for a while. I'm sure there is a stretch of road (can't remember where now) with a load o traffic lights. They are set so that if you travel at the speed limit you will go through all of them at green. If you speed (or dawdle too much), you catch them at red.

Personally I don't have a problem with that (as long as they don't start putting gratuitous lights down oherwise empty, fast, safe roads!)

hertsbiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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Current SB acceleration, and the time it takes lights to change Green-amber-red, means that the fastest machines won't get red-flagged !!!

With this "radar" detection, does it differentiate between 2 streams of traffic? eg, I may choose to overtake people. Will it even notice me?

smeagol

1,947 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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There is a road in Leicester (Melton road) that has loads of traffic lights (in the guiness book of records as a matter of fact for the most per mile). They are literally every 50 yards. They are set so that they go green as you approrach from the previous light. The theory is that you get caught by one set then when they change you will be able to get straight through all of them. Its utter B*ll*cks of course because a bit a traffic and it grinds to a halt. Most locals just avoid that road.

manek

2,972 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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Hasn't this existed in one form for a while. I'm sure there is a stretch of road (can't remember where now) with a load o traffic lights. They are set so that if you travel at the speed limit you will go through all of them at green. If you speed (or dawdle too much), you catch them at red.

Personally I don't have a problem with that (as long as they don't start putting gratuitous lights down oherwise empty, fast, safe roads!)



There was a stretch of road in Slough like this.

- Manek -

beano1197

20,854 posts

276 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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There was a stretch of road in Slough like this.

- Manek -



Indeed. It was called (still is, funnily enough) the A4. Somehow, the system doesn't seem to be working any more (well not the times I've been through Sluff in the last few years!) and the locals would probably give you a totally different view as to the meaning of a red light......

......Ooooo I didn't say that did I?

WalterU

470 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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What do they take to enable them to come up with these ideas?




they take a trip to Germany or Italy where they've had this for years. Why have I changed from being an EEC fanatic to an EEC hater? Because all the time some poxy bureacrat is being invited to another EEC country and picking up all these poxy ideas.

Rgds WalterU

Jason F

1,183 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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Why have I changed from being an EEC fanatic to an EEC hater? Because all the time some poxy bureacrat is being invited to another EEC country and picking up all these poxy ideas.



These Information gathering trips also cost us hundreds of thousands of pounds and we are getting some Unelected t*****er who probably is quite anally retentive and not good enough to get a job in the real world setting out Laws for all.

JonRB

74,596 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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Hasn't this existed in one form for a while. I'm sure there is a stretch of road (can't remember where now) with a load o traffic lights. They are set so that if you travel at the speed limit you will go through all of them at green. If you speed (or dawdle too much), you catch them at red.
There's a famous stretch in London (not so famous that I can remember where it is though) that has this, and cabbies talk of "riding the green wave" like surfer dudes.

I was in a taxi in Liverpool many years ago where much the same thing happened. We were convinced the driver was dawdling until we realised that every single set of traffic lights we came to was green - he had timed each to perfection and was "riding the green wave" for us for the whole of our journey.

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nonegreen

7,803 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th February 2002
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South Manchester has a red wave of green b@llsh@t powered traffic jams caused by deliberately setting the traffic jam timing lights to cause maximum chaos cos cars are bad right>>> now wheres my splif? I want to think green thoughts.

kevinday

11,640 posts

281 months

Wednesday 20th February 2002
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Here in Hungary on some major roads into towns there are signs indicating the speed you need to travel to catch the next green light, we may be backwards on lots of things, but some areas are good.

JMGS4

8,739 posts

271 months

Wednesday 20th February 2002
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Hi chaps, the "Grüne Welle" has been in Germany since 1964 and works extremely well. Especially on the B1 the old Ruhrschnellweg (Ruhr fast? way). One could drive from Düsseldorf to Dortmund following the posted light speeds and not hit one single red light!!! over 120km!
BUT in the mean time they are posting "approach sensitive" lights in some villages in the middle of nowhere, whereby they automatically go to red when you approach, no matter what time of day or night or traffic conditions. This is usually put up in a 2 horse village with 150m long 50km speed limit to stop those "d**** racers". Occasionally it is put there with reason but when an electronic highwaymann is coupled to it, just another instance of highway robbery

hertsbiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th February 2002
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jmgs4:

I am surprised they don't just have lights on RED all the time, and then make them go green when something has been stopped there for a while...

We need STEALTH paint !!!