Anyone understand the anti new Mini feeling?
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Just been reading the following thread
PistonHeads > Gassing Station > General Gassing > Cars that you have an irrational hatred for....
Surprised at the level of venom directed towards the new Mini.
Anyone experienced any negative vibes with their mini?
Personally after driving a 4 wheel drive BMW for a couple of years I found it a breath of fresh air driving the mini with a very different attitude from other road users.
PistonHeads > Gassing Station > General Gassing > Cars that you have an irrational hatred for....
Surprised at the level of venom directed towards the new Mini.
Anyone experienced any negative vibes with their mini?
Personally after driving a 4 wheel drive BMW for a couple of years I found it a breath of fresh air driving the mini with a very different attitude from other road users.
PH has been invaded by weirdos in the last eighteen months, so you have to put those comments into perspective especially given some of the opinions formed are based on how others perceive them in their cars. Which is more important - what you think of your car, or others opinions?
There's even a bloke that posts on PH with an irrational hatred of Surrey and anyone/thing in it. Take it with a pinch of salt and let them get on with their strange lives.
There's even a bloke that posts on PH with an irrational hatred of Surrey and anyone/thing in it. Take it with a pinch of salt and let them get on with their strange lives.
I think in a lot of cases its an envy thing. The new Mini is seen as a symbol that says 'I'm doing ok', in these financially crippling times not everyone is. They see the car as something they want but cannot have and they begrudge those that do.
On a bigger scale its like when people think w
ker when they see someone in a Ferrari, subconciously we all know we'd love to be the lucky b
d driving around in that. The Mini thing is just a scaled down version of this, sad but true.
On a bigger scale its like when people think w


I use those sorts of threads to shortlist cars to own for the future.
What some keyboard jockey thinks about my cars is irrelevant to me and they should get a life. Car choices are a personal thing and what is right for one person is so wrong for another. I saw a 5 series BMW yesterday on the Motorway in a nice colour very tidy until he goes past and has a drainpipe for an exhaust. Now the owner probably thinks it is great I happen to think it spoils the car. Now he paid for the mod and the car so it is up to him what he does with it and my opinion is just that an opinion.
So ignore em and have the car you want not what others think you should have.
What some keyboard jockey thinks about my cars is irrelevant to me and they should get a life. Car choices are a personal thing and what is right for one person is so wrong for another. I saw a 5 series BMW yesterday on the Motorway in a nice colour very tidy until he goes past and has a drainpipe for an exhaust. Now the owner probably thinks it is great I happen to think it spoils the car. Now he paid for the mod and the car so it is up to him what he does with it and my opinion is just that an opinion.
So ignore em and have the car you want not what others think you should have.
I think the fact that BMW pulled the plug on Rover may have a lot to do with it.I think most people love MINIs,nearly everybody as owned or at least driven a classic Mini,and always have a tale to tell as a result.There still seems to be some ill feelings from the classic Mini owners to,I dont see why as BMW have only done what Rover group should have done years ago,but they didn't have the vision or the insight to see what an important brand the Mini was.If they had their way the Mini would have been dead and buried in the mid 80's.I think BMW have done a fantastic job on the new MINI,in everyway but most importantly in the driving spirit.
The anti new mini feeling comes from two areas, old mini fans how dont like the idea of BMW making a large car and calling it a mini and BMW having a go at anyone useing the mini name (some mini supply companys had to change there names etc).
I like new and old, they are very diffrent and realy only have the name to link them.
I like new and old, they are very diffrent and realy only have the name to link them.
Personally,i think it is more than the name that links them,the individuality,driving spirit,handling,lack of bootspace!....when i test drove my first r53 Cooper S,the sound of the supercharger took me straight back to my early Mini days,sounded just like the old whining gearbox,got me hooked on Minis again.I now have a 1967 mk2 that i'm doing up and a 2006 Cooper S JCW,and love both of them.So near,yet so far away.
john p said:
Personally,i think it is more than the name that links them,the individuality,driving spirit,handling,lack of bootspace!....when i test drove my first r53 Cooper S,the sound of the supercharger took me straight back to my early Mini days,sounded just like the old whining gearbox,got me hooked on Minis again.I now have a 1967 mk2 that i'm doing up and a 2006 Cooper S JCW,and love both of them.So near,yet so far away.
Except the original Mini suffered from appalling ride quality that those with rose tinted spectacles probably won't remember.Popular car that is driven by all sorts, and its actually very good despite appealing to women, children, and men.
It is easily better than the competition in every department, you just have to pay a bit for the privilege. I don't think they are a token of being financially sound, they are only 10k, but they just work. I think its a great car, and the fact you can't buy one (on the whole) for under £5k yet 9 years after launch says all you need to know, you get a pretty new Pug,Renault for 5k.
It is easily better than the competition in every department, you just have to pay a bit for the privilege. I don't think they are a token of being financially sound, they are only 10k, but they just work. I think its a great car, and the fact you can't buy one (on the whole) for under £5k yet 9 years after launch says all you need to know, you get a pretty new Pug,Renault for 5k.
Edited by okgo on Monday 23 March 20:11
JCW said:
john p said:
Personally,i think it is more than the name that links them,the individuality,driving spirit,handling,lack of bootspace!....when i test drove my first r53 Cooper S,the sound of the supercharger took me straight back to my early Mini days,sounded just like the old whining gearbox,got me hooked on Minis again.I now have a 1967 mk2 that i'm doing up and a 2006 Cooper S JCW,and love both of them.So near,yet so far away.
Except the original Mini suffered from appalling ride quality that those with rose tinted spectacles probably won't remember.artov60 said:
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PistonHeads > Gassing Station > General Gassing > Cars that you have an irrational hatred for....
Surprised at the level of venom directed towards the new Mini.
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Look at what you've written. PistonHeads > Gassing Station > General Gassing > Cars that you have an irrational hatred for....
Surprised at the level of venom directed towards the new Mini.
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They are admitting that their hatred is irrational.
It's a stylised car, which usually means Style over substance. the type of people that bought them initially based on style never really found the true substance. I've never driven one, but a friend of my wife who is a modern day Mrs Bucket and thrives on having the 'right' clothes and handbag. Well she has a copper S, which I thought a real waste. However Her down to earth Husband informs me that he's driven it fairly rapidly around our local country lanes and it's the best thing since recreational drugs (I'm not sure he'd know but those were his words) and is s

Therefore I'd say the hatred is irrational, because it's not the car but the type of people.
Above is right. Its 90% of the time a car that goes to waste on its drivers, as they don't realise they are driving something that can really handle a thrashing. You can tell this is the case because something like 1/10 cooper-s cars out there have LSD. That is because most people who buy them don't have a clue, they buy them because they have two exhausts and nice bumpers.
Edited by okgo on Tuesday 24th March 17:15
okgo said:
Above is right. Its 90% of the time a car that goes to waste on its drivers, as they don't realise they are driving something that can really handle a thrashing. You can tell this is the case because something like 1/10 cooper-s cars out there have LSD. That is because most people who buy them don't have a clue, they buy them because they have two exhausts and nice bumpers.
The same applies to many modern cars, including Porsche,BMW,TVR and many others where the car isn't driven to its full potential, nor are the latest handling/performance options included so I think it does come down to the fact that the forum has been invaded by oddballs who have nothing better to do than slate other cars - certainly, since I joined the forum a plethora of internet geeks seem to have taken over contributing nothing else, but their lists of dislikes. I mean, in the real world who has time to sit around slagging off other people and their cars?Edited by okgo on Tuesday 24th March 17:15
JCW said:
okgo said:
Above is right. Its 90% of the time a car that goes to waste on its drivers, as they don't realise they are driving something that can really handle a thrashing. You can tell this is the case because something like 1/10 cooper-s cars out there have LSD. That is because most people who buy them don't have a clue, they buy them because they have two exhausts and nice bumpers.
The same applies to many modern cars, including Porsche,BMW,TVR and many others where the car isn't driven to its full potential, nor are the latest handling/performance options included so I think it does come down to the fact that the forum has been invaded by oddballs who have nothing better to do than slate other cars - certainly, since I joined the forum a plethora of internet geeks seem to have taken over contributing nothing else, but their lists of dislikes. I mean, in the real world who has time to sit around slagging off other people and their cars?Edited by okgo on Tuesday 24th March 17:15
I drove a new cooper S and thought it was quite good, certainly better quality build than the older cooper S, but just not worth the price tag.
However stood side by side I dont like the look of the newer one, its not as good looking.
Its very bloated and lacks the bonnet shapes too.
Needless to say we went for a 54 plate JCW.
However stood side by side I dont like the look of the newer one, its not as good looking.
Its very bloated and lacks the bonnet shapes too.
Needless to say we went for a 54 plate JCW.
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