944 Adulustable Top Mounts

[DontLift]

Anyone know a good UK source for 944 Adjustable top mounts as I want to add these to my shopping list for the winter mods.

[DontLift]

See: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=66886&f=48&h=0 for other items already sourced.

I am also after new beef cake anti roll bars - but do not know at this time which to go for.

[dmsims]

Not a UK source (sorry I don't know of any) but www.paragon-products.com or www.lindseyracing.com are both excellent US suppliers

968 M030 bars (30mm hollow front and 19mm 3way adjustable rears) are the way to go and reasonable price from a main dealer

David

[DontLift]

dmsims said:

Not a UK source (sorry I don't know of any) but www.paragon-products.com or www.lindseyracing.com are both excellent US suppliers 968 M030 bars (30mm hollow front and 19mm 3way adjustable rears) are the way to go and reasonable price from a main dealer David

Thanks David I had already seen the two US suppliers you mention, ideally looking for someone in the UK bet hey if it has to be USofA then so be it.

On the roll bar front, I am seriously considering having these made, As i dont think 30mm hollow will be enough was thinking more like 30mm - 35mm solid bars rose jointed to the arms rather than busched

[dmsims]

One last thought:
Andrew Sweetenham imports a lot of Lindsey stuff, he MAY be able to source them:

www.autoporsche.co.uk

35mm? just get rid of the suspension !

[Clubsport]

Dontlift this is not such a bad time to buy parts from the US, The £/$ exchange is currently 1.68 this is as good as it has been in the last 5 years for buying goods in america using pounds......Care with the customs charge though!

[DontLift]

dmsims said:

One last thought: Andrew Sweetenham imports a lot of Lindsey stuff, he MAY be able to source them: www.autoporsche.co.uk 35mm? just get rid of the suspension !

The car is to become my track day hack, and will not be used much on the road after the mods are completed, so yes getting rid of the suspension is my intention....

[DontLift]

Clubsport said:

Dontlift this is not such a bad time to buy parts from the US, The £/$ exchange is currently 1.68 this is as good as it has been in the last 5 years for buying goods in america using pounds......Care with the customs charge though!

Good and Valid point Clubsport I might have to have another look at this

[DontLift]

Thanks for posting the autoporsche.co.uk link

looks like i will be spending even more wonga, adding a front splitter to the shopping list......



>> Edited by DontLift on Thursday 13th November 11:48

[diver944]

Email Andrew and let him know you are interested in the splitter. His original supplier stopped making them so he has none in stock, but Andrew has now found another manufacturer but obviously he needs to know if there is interest out there before committing himself

[DontLift]

Was going to drop him a mail at the weekend as he mentions this on his site....


MUST HAVE ONE

[lordlee]

splitter does look good. my friend is currently adapting the fog light bit in the front bumper to incorporate a brake duct and a smaller nicer looking fog. if anyone is half interested i'll let him know. I may even be able to get him to bring one down to the heckfield meet.

[james]

That tiny front splitter doesn't look like it's going to do much to keep the front of your car down (other than by adding weight). Just using my rudimentary knowledge of aerodynamics, I'd class that as a cosmetic splitter. Not what you want on a track car at all.

If you want to make any aerodynamic mods to your car, you really need to speak to some people who have raced the cars in series where aerodynamic aids are allowed, and see what worked for them. As an example, I fitted a 100mm deep splitter to the front of my Ultima, and it made it handle like a dream. Without it, or with a smaller one, it was very understeery.

James

[dontlift]

james said:

That tiny front splitter doesn't look like it's going to do much to keep the front of your car down (other than by adding weight). Just using my rudimentary knowledge of aerodynamics, I'd class that as a cosmetic splitter. Not what you want on a track car at all. If you want to make any aerodynamic mods to your car, you really need to speak to some people who have raced the cars in series where aerodynamic aids are allowed, and see what worked for them. As an example, I fitted a 100mm deep splitter to the front of my Ultima, and it made it handle like a dream. Without it, or with a smaller one, it was very understeery. James

You are probably right James, but anything which helps reduce understeer is alright in my book, even if it only works a little bit, when racing the Tasmin, we tried several front splitters and as you say - the deeper the better

>> Edited by dontlift on Friday 14th November 09:58

[dmsims]

In fairness Andrew (who is having them made) had one fitted to his race 944 turbo (Porsche Cup). He has also fitted it to his road car and on track as you say it does help kill the understeer

It is almost identical to the splitter fitted to the 968 turbo RS (my favourite Porsche!)



>> Edited by dmsims on Friday 14th November 10:03

[james]

dontlift said:

You are probably right James, but anything which helps reduce understeer is alright in my book, even if it only works a little bit, when racing the Tasmin, we tried several front splitters and as you say - the deeper the better

Have you thought of 3Kg of lead in the front bumper. That would probably have a similar effect

Does the 944 suffer badly from understeer? I'd heard that they were pretty good. I've never driven one, or even been in one as a passenger (although I have sat in the drivers seat of mine making Brmmm Brmmm noises a couple of times ), so I wouldn't know.

You can usually dial out a lot of that sort of thing with suspension setup. It might be worth experimenting before you spend time and money on bolting on bits to mask a possible setup problem.

Cheers
James

[dontlift]

Mine does suffer a bit, we have cured most of it with suspension setup (thank god for fully adjustable leda's). but I prefer no understeer to a little so anything that can help get rid of that last bit is very very welcome

[james]

Stiffening up the front still further probably won't help your understeer. You could try dropping the rate of the front springs, or just increasing the rears. I spent ages playing with the setup on my old SD1 race car, and only got rid of the problem when I fitted softer front springs than I had imagined I could get away with. The car ended up handling like a (very large) roller skate

James

[dontlift]

james said:

Stiffening up the front still further probably won't help your understeer. You could try dropping the rate of the front springs, or just increasing the rears. I spent ages playing with the setup on my old SD1 race car, and only got rid of the problem when I fitted softer front springs than I had imagined I could get away with. The car ended up handling like a (very large) roller skate James

I am not going to touch it again until I get it onto track tyres as the current Toyo Proxies are probably not doing it justice, and in it's next incarnation it will be running on a what amounts to a road legal cut slick so this should make a huge amount of difference anyway, and the setup will probably need to be completely different

[UK952]

You could consider a full set of slicks on an extra set of wheels (quite cheap in standard sizes) then you can keep the toyos for when it rains and run the slicks for when its dry. 4 x wheels and tyres fit in the back and you can join the wheel changing competition at the begining and end of the day.