New to Jags, advice needed
New to Jags, advice needed
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Lil' Joe

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1,548 posts

209 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Hi guys,
Im thinking an old school Jag may be a great way to get a decently powered waft-mobile for a new driver. Any suggestions on which models to be looking at? Must be reasonably reliable too.
Cheers guys,
Joe

Never been on this part of Pistonheads, so wavey

a8hex

5,832 posts

246 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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when you say old school what do you mean?
50s?, 60s?, 70s?, 80s?, 90s?

If you want reliable, look for an XJ6 X300 model, Nov. 94 -> 96ish. if that's old school enough.

The models before where the known as XJ40s, but also badged XJ6.

Before that were the original XJ6s, Series I, II or III

that takes you back to the late 60s.

Give us a bit more of a clue.

Lil' Joe

Original Poster:

1,548 posts

209 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Ooops, sorry. I guess Im thinking 90's ish. I'm 26 so the Jags I would have seen as a kid would be late 80' and 90's so that would be good. Any pics you might have would help a lot for me to narrow it down a bit.
Thanks for the help.
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TurricanII

1,516 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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The X300/x308 (see my profile pic) was the first with a galvanised body I think. I heard that the XJ40 (older) XJ was majorly prone to rust

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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The key to buying an older Jaguar is to make absolutely sure you buy the best example you can afford, rather than concentrating solely on one model. You'll need to do some research to make sure whatever you buy fits your needs and driving style and look at several before you part with any beer tokens to avoid tears later on.

I'd suggest you look at the '90s saloon range which covers the XJ40 and X300. Basicaly they are the same car but with a slightly differnt body and are fairly releliable and easy to work on.

Your main concern should be rust - almost everywhere on the 40 and rear wheel arches, sill, and under the bonnet on the X300.

I know of a really clean 1990 XJ40 that's only done 55k from new. It been sitting unused in a garage for at least the last year and needs a good wash and polish and a thorough service and is up for sale by an elderly gentleman who is giving up driving. PM me if you're interested.

a8hex

5,832 posts

246 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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you can find a load of the brochures here
http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/1990_section.h...



JimexPL

1,451 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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As others have said, buy on condition, not age or mileage. Even the later X308s can rust badly if you're unlucky.

On earlier cars avoid the small engine (2.9?) unless it's very cheap.

I also know of a nice one owner XJ40 with low miles and full main dealer service history that will probably be coming up for sale soon (as long as my friend who has just bought it doesn't decide to add it to his ever expanding jag pile (2xXJ 40s, xjs, x300)...pm me if you'd like more info.

There's nothing wrong with driving a big jag in your 20s. If I had the space a 4.0 XJ40 or XJR would be sitting outside my house and I'm 28!

Lil' Joe

Original Poster:

1,548 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Thanks for all the help guys. Before I go any further with your kind offers, what ball park price are we talking. Under £10k? Under £5k?

How are the running costs of the XJ40 and X300?

Thanks again.
Joe
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Cecil

337 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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why not have a look here http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/

groomi

9,330 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Jaguar steve said:
I know of a really clean 1990 XJ40 that's only done 55k from new. It been sitting unused in a garage for at least the last year and needs a good wash and polish and a thorough service and is up for sale by an elderly gentleman who is giving up driving. PM me if you're interested.
Oh Steve, you really shouldn't have said that. Just don't tell me it's a 4.0L Sovereign or Daimler...

Lil' Joe

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1,548 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Ive looked there, I meant to the two guys who offered Jags.

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x200sxy

515 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Any top notch 40 or 300 should be less than £5000. Servicing on average will be a few hundred a year at a specialist.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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groomi said:
Jaguar steve said:
I know of a really clean 1990 XJ40 that's only done 55k from new. It been sitting unused in a garage for at least the last year and needs a good wash and polish and a thorough service and is up for sale by an elderly gentleman who is giving up driving. PM me if you're interested.
Oh Steve, you really shouldn't have said that. Just don't tell me it's a 4.0L Sovereign or Daimler...
Luckly - you want one don't you? - it's not. It's a 3.2 auto in blue with tan leather interior. It has all the handbooks and service history and on a brief drive round the block last summer I could find nothing, apart from the central locking not working properly, wrong with it. Even the 'diff is not leaking eek

Under the layer of dust on the body there appears to be no rust at all, the subframe looks OK and I couldn't see any scratches, peeling lacquer or damage either - very surprising for earlyish XJ40. Some of the chrome was a little pitted and the MOT will have run out by now.

With a really thorough clean and polish and a full fluid change it'd make a nice car. I was kind of tempted myself, especially as the vendor was not asking a lot of money for it.

Edited by Jaguar steve on Thursday 2nd April 07:09

JimexPL

1,451 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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JimexPL said:
As others have said, buy on condition, not age or mileage. Even the later X308s can rust badly if you're unlucky.

On earlier cars avoid the small engine (2.9?) unless it's very cheap.

I also know of a nice one owner XJ40 with low miles and full main dealer service history that will probably be coming up for sale soon (as long as my friend who has just bought it doesn't decide to add it to his ever expanding jag pile (2xXJ 40s, xjs, x300)...pm me if you'd like more info.

There's nothing wrong with driving a big jag in your 20s. If I had the space a 4.0 XJ40 or XJR would be sitting outside my house and I'm 28!
I expect that he'll be looking for £1500-2000, but I haven't seen the car yet. It's Burgundy with light leather. He's got a project xjs for sale in the classified for £750 at the moment (lack of time/space to sort it...) if you want to give him a call.

groomi

9,330 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Jaguar steve said:
groomi said:
Jaguar steve said:
I know of a really clean 1990 XJ40 that's only done 55k from new. It been sitting unused in a garage for at least the last year and needs a good wash and polish and a thorough service and is up for sale by an elderly gentleman who is giving up driving. PM me if you're interested.
Oh Steve, you really shouldn't have said that. Just don't tell me it's a 4.0L Sovereign or Daimler...
Luckly - you want one don't you? - it's not. It's a 3.2 auto in blue with tan leather interior. It has all the handbooks and service history and on a brief drive round the block last summer I could find nothing, apart from the central locking not working properly, wrong with it. Even the 'diff is not leaking eek

Under the layer of dust on the body there appears to be no rust at all, the subframe looks OK and I couldn't see any scratches, peeling lacquer or damage either - very surprising for earlyish XJ40. Some of the chrome was a little pitted and the MOT will have run out by now.

With a really thorough clean and polish and a full fluid change it'd make a nice car. I was kind of tempted myself, especially as the vendor was not asking a lot of money for it.

Edited by Jaguar steve on Thursday 2nd April 07:09
Phew!

My first Jag was an 11 year old 4.0L XJ40 Sovereign in similar condition - 33,000 miles, full dealer history etc. A real find - I'd be really struggling to turn another such car down... and if it was a V12... cloud9

a8hex

5,832 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Know how you feel. I mentioned to Chris at RGCs a few months ago I fancied a V12 X300. He said, really a customer of mine is thinking of selling his immaculate very low mileage one.

yikes EEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!! yikes

Quick run away before SWMBO comes after me with a pair of half bricks!

It was a close run thing though. Damn good thing I said no though, considering the bill that the XK has just run up. Just thank goodness that they don't seem to have made a Black X300 V12 with Cream interior. I'm not so taken with the Nimbus Grey or Oatmeal leather fitted to all the ones I've seen. Black paint and Cream insides do appear to be on the list of possible colour schemes.

groomi

9,330 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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a8hex said:
Just thank goodness that they don't seem to have made a Black X300 V12 with Cream interior. I'm not so taken with the Nimbus Grey or Oatmeal leather fitted to all the ones I've seen. Black paint and Cream insides do appear to be on the list of possible colour schemes.
I saw an olive green X300 V12 once. It just worked perfectly...

a8hex

5,832 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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groomi said:
a8hex said:
Just thank goodness that they don't seem to have made a Black X300 V12 with Cream interior. I'm not so taken with the Nimbus Grey or Oatmeal leather fitted to all the ones I've seen. Black paint and Cream insides do appear to be on the list of possible colour schemes.
I saw an olive green X300 V12 once. It just worked perfectly...
Sorry for me they just HAVE to be Black with Cream Interior. Now I just need to find someone to wash it everyday for me getmecoat
Looked at a Virage cosmetic 6.3 in in Mason Black and Cream one, that looked the dogs .... too. If it had been a 6.3 rather than just a cosmetic I might have been tempted.

NST

1,523 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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last week i was surfing around looking for a x300 V12.. thinking it would be a nice car to drive around in! it would make for a lovely daily runner.

groomi

9,330 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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NST said:
last week i was surfing around looking for a x300 V12.. thinking it would be a nice car to drive around in! it would make for a lovely daily runner.
Only if you live and work next door to petrol stations...