Employee pulling a fast one?
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Last thursday one of our employees asked if he could finish early on friday as he needed to get a train to his home town due to his nan being ill. Not a problem i said.
On friday afternoon he leaves at lunch and asks for a 30 quid sub for the ticket as his wages for the previous week have yet to clear. So i give him the sub.
He phones saturday to say his nan has died and that he'll be back sunday and that he'd also need another day off some time soon for the funeral. By now his wages have cleared.
He then phones around 11am, clearly still in bed and just woken up, on monday to say he's staying on another day and that the funeral is thursday so he'll need that day off.
Eventually he rolls into town at tuesday lunchtime, then proceeds to do little for the rest of the day.
He was supposed to go back tonight and, again, asked for a sub for his train. This time wanting 60 quid so he had money to buy flowers, etc. I tell him he can only have 30 and he gets in a strop. I ask if none if his family can lend the rest until his money clears to which he replies no. At this point i start to get sceptical. Whose family wouldn't lend them money for a family funeral?
If she died at the weekend or late on friday, would it be plausible to have the funeral as soon as the following thursday? I'd assume they wouldn't be able to do anything about it until monday but he already knew monday morning what day it would be.
I've also checked his facebook wall and there's not a single message of condolence.
Opinions?
On friday afternoon he leaves at lunch and asks for a 30 quid sub for the ticket as his wages for the previous week have yet to clear. So i give him the sub.
He phones saturday to say his nan has died and that he'll be back sunday and that he'd also need another day off some time soon for the funeral. By now his wages have cleared.
He then phones around 11am, clearly still in bed and just woken up, on monday to say he's staying on another day and that the funeral is thursday so he'll need that day off.
Eventually he rolls into town at tuesday lunchtime, then proceeds to do little for the rest of the day.
He was supposed to go back tonight and, again, asked for a sub for his train. This time wanting 60 quid so he had money to buy flowers, etc. I tell him he can only have 30 and he gets in a strop. I ask if none if his family can lend the rest until his money clears to which he replies no. At this point i start to get sceptical. Whose family wouldn't lend them money for a family funeral?
If she died at the weekend or late on friday, would it be plausible to have the funeral as soon as the following thursday? I'd assume they wouldn't be able to do anything about it until monday but he already knew monday morning what day it would be.
I've also checked his facebook wall and there's not a single message of condolence.
Opinions?
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case dismissed!he might not have family around to get cash from, and it'd be awkward having to repay an uncle living in a different area, plus facebook is more of mates, and describing how drunk you are rather than heartfelt messages of condolence.
not enough as yet to bust his ass, but not having £30 spare (first sub as an example) isn't a great sign of financial management.
First you'l have to excuse the way i'm posting, i'm using my phone so trying to keep things short without resorting to text speak!
He worked for us previously, was great then but he moved to his hometown at the end of 2007. He moved back in feb 2009. Now he seems more unreliable and my business partner thinks he might have a drink problem.
My business partner also just informed me he spoke to the lad last friday night and he was in a different town, his girlfriends, who supposedly then drove him to his town.
He's now apparently not going until tomorrow morning but doesn't know what time as he hasn't checked! He also reckons he'll be back tomorrow night.
He worked for us previously, was great then but he moved to his hometown at the end of 2007. He moved back in feb 2009. Now he seems more unreliable and my business partner thinks he might have a drink problem.
My business partner also just informed me he spoke to the lad last friday night and he was in a different town, his girlfriends, who supposedly then drove him to his town.
He's now apparently not going until tomorrow morning but doesn't know what time as he hasn't checked! He also reckons he'll be back tomorrow night.
FourWheelDrift said:
Instead of giving him money for a train, offer to drive him there yourself.
It's about two hours each way!Eta: he's just phoned to say his sister will lend the rest and he's going tonight. Beginning to think this is a jolly to see his girlfriend.
Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 1st April 20:08
Oakey said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Instead of giving him money for a train, offer to drive him there yourself.
It's about two hours each way!Eta: he's just phoned to say his sister will lend the rest and he's going tonight. Beginning to think this is a jolly to see his girlfriend.
Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 1st April 20:08
Who knows he might actually have just lost his grandmother and gone through his first major family bereavement and be under a bit of duress.
We had a driver who's mother allegedly died three times in a two period. Diary archives, you can't beat them.
fesuvious said:
Case dismissed? Not a chance, if this is bulls
t it'll be easily provable.
but know from what we've been told at the moment. Dismissed on lack of evidence, not found Not Guilty.t it'll be easily provable."sorry to hear of your nan's recent death, Bloke, bird and associates sends their deepest sympathy" left as a message would cause a hilarious s
t storm, especially with all the "i nvr knew ur nan died m8, soz" comments.friend mentioned his mother died on facebook recently, boss knows my own site as sometimes the work's email does not work and he sends me stuff to it, apparently the pictures look good and he is not stupid enough to try the work's mobile at weekends 
the OP's employee might be genuine, but a facebook posting and a condolences card to his parents could be very good
the OP's employee might be genuine, but a facebook posting and a condolences card to his parents could be very good
It really sounds like one of those things where it would be better to give him the benefit of the doubt. A funeral is a one off thing, it's not like he can say it every week, and however great and valid your suspicions, the idea of confronting him about it and being wrong is pretty grim.
Oakey said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Instead of giving him money for a train, offer to drive him there yourself.
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