Quick one... RBS
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carreauchompeur

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18,332 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Sell now or wait for morning?

Tick tick tick smile

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Get stung with a rights issue. hehe

carreauchompeur

Original Poster:

18,332 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Sold... Decent profit smile Despite immense problems with the fecking Barclays site.

What's the stock du jour tomorrow then? BARC has seemed quite buoyant but hasn't dropped down to a worthwhile level to buy in for a while.

RBS did seem a little sluggish... What effect is the rights issue likely to have?

matsmith

1,166 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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Chompeur, if id have seen this thread in time then id have given you my 33.1p target for them

the whole market is fascinating at the moment, iv already said im optimistic on the banks (though I wasnt optimistic enough to hold on to them barclays shares, backed the dark side there but thats the way it goes)

From where they are now they could continue with a rally to about 40p, but I emphasise the word could!!

mondays action will give a few more clues to the exact direction this ones heading

carreauchompeur

Original Poster:

18,332 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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Thanks for that, did kick myself when I sold late yesterday for 28.5 and they peaked around 33 today...

I did expect somewhat of a dip before starting today which didn't happen. Hopefully there'll be a slight dip Monday morning so I can buy back in- Whatever happens it's not disastrous as I have locked in a decent profit and also want to consolidate with some money that was in LLOY.

topless_mx5

2,763 posts

249 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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I bought in at 25.6 I think. Going to hold out till they hit 40+. Then again, I know nothing about shares and the financial market...

matsmith

1,166 posts

240 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Chompeur- RBS came back down to 29p after 33.5, which could be all of its downside on this move out of the way, but its possible that it goes down to 27p

after 40p comes a potentially large drop, where we could revisit 20p

Fesuvious- where does that target come from?

Topless MX5- 40p is a good target, and theres only one way to learn about the market

just dont get to greedy on exit and you'l be fine

Chessers

746 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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Have been day selling lots of the above mentioned financials for a while. Agreed that most seem to have addressed a lot of internal issues and one would hope that no more writedowns are in the pipeline.

Now totally out of Barc but Lloy and Rbs have some more gains in them yet IMO.

Target price of 43 for RBS is a pretty good shout. I'll come out if they head North of 40.

Came of out LLoy on Friday at close but will keep an eye on them at open on Monday.

matsmith

1,166 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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fesuvious- staring at a monitor is one thing, but is there any real analysis in that? or just based on the price that it held around pre that friday/monday sell off?

remember that the prices have no memory of where they used to be

good luck

matsmith

1,166 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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where is confidence going to come from?

Bodo

12,625 posts

297 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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fesuvious said:
and remember that its only confidence that drives the markets from this point on.......
It has always been confidence that drove the entire economy. And always will.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

281 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Tis confidence that drives rise in share prices. The current "confidence" is from a lack of bad news more than a spate of good news. We're heading towards a lot more earnings reports over the coming period, etc. These WON'T be pretty. Any up-side has likely now been factored into the financial share prices. Rise also partially due to end of tax year ISA padding. Likely a bit more of a very short term rise as people don't realise that boat has sailed...

...then quite likely for them to drop noticeably as the reality of the recession hits home again.

Things to note:
  • Not all banks are equal
  • Compare the market cap of the banks to the subsidiaries they own - quite an easy way of seeing who's undervalued (or has their assets mis-valued, if nothing else!)
Personal opinion: the next dip is the time to buy + hold.

Apologies for lousy grammar - falling asleep at the keyboard here... jobs in banking just aren't 9-5 any more wink

ShadownINja

80,169 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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matsmith said:
remember that the prices have no memory of where they used to be
But the players do.

carreauchompeur

Original Poster:

18,332 posts

235 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Come on then, prices have dropped and I'm eager to buy back in today/this week.

RBS, LLOY or BARC?

ShadownINja

80,169 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Based on Google, looks like a nice time to short.

ETA: short at 28. Let's see how I do. biggrin

Edited by ShadownINja on Tuesday 7th April 11:13

Chessers

746 posts

243 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Did nicely on all three last week but like an idiot went into RBS at COB yesterday as there were some big buys going through and I wanted to see if anything was in the offing.

Bailed out this morning at a loss.

Barc may have some life left in it, selling it's PE business that holds a lot of toxic assets and very close to selling the i-shares business for 3/3.5bn USD so that will shore up the balance sheet somewhat.

All open to interpretation - is selling one of the most profitable parts of the business a good idea in the long run .......................... maybe not but helps in the short term.

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

287 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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got out of RBS at 32 last week(18 in) and also LLOY at 72 (in at 48) though i thought yesterday i was abit soon on that one... LOL i'm feeling much better about it today!

looking to get back into RBS if they dip below the 25 mark again

Chessers

746 posts

243 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Good work that - got out of LLOY at 76 (in at 60) and out of BARC at 175 (in at 140) - ruined it with the call on RBS - eeejit !

dontfollowme

1,191 posts

264 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Regretting not buying at 10p

matsmith

1,166 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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ShadownINja said:
matsmith said:
remember that the prices have no memory of where they used to be
But the players do.
haha true.. thats how most of the players lose money though huh Shadow