Friday 3rd April 2009

Sporty Ibiza Estate From SEAT

Hot Ibiza wagon on the way, but details remain sketchy

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We found this, drawn on a napkin

Seat has released a teaser sketch of its forthcoming Ibiza ST Estate.

The hot Ibiza wagon has been designed by ex-Lamborghini designer Luc Donckerwolke, who has revitalised the Seat range with a series of sporty looking designs.

As expected with a sketch of this sort, no official details have been released about the car that is likely to make be launched midway through 2010. The Ibiza ST Estate will be Seat’s second sporty tourer after the Cordoba Vario which was launched in 1998.

Buyers can expect a range of punchy petrol engines and an economical diesel option, with prices similar to Skoda’s Fabia estate.

[astrsxi77]

Expect 1580kg and a range topping 2.0 Cupra S TDI-R.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

[va1o]

The engines will most likely a pair of 1.6 CR TDIs with 90bhp and 105bhp, and a 1.2 TSI petrol with 105bhp and a range-topping 1.4 TSI petrol with 122bhp.

Nippy enough, but far from powerful.

Edited by va1o on Friday 3rd April 13:44

[Strike_J]

Am I the only person who thinks the new Ibiza just doesn't look "right"? Its those lines/creases on the doors that make it look awkward. It deffinately doesn't have the style of the Leon.

[va1o]

Strike_J said:

Am I the only person who thinks the new Ibiza just doesn't look "right"? Its those lines/creases on the doors that make it look awkward. It deffinately doesn't have the style of the Leon.

I don't think its bad looking, just another very trim/ colour sensitive car.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

Pointless car!!!

Dont quite understand how you can have a Mini-hatchback Estate model. Doesnt make sense!! Whats the market for this? Isnt an Ibiaza Estate just going to be.....a Leon (slgihtly larger storage space than Ibiza)!

[Belfast Boy]

Spiritual_Beggar said:

Pointless car!!!

Dont quite understand how you can have a Mini-hatchback Estate model. Doesnt make sense!! Whats the market for this? Isnt an Ibiaza Estate just going to be.....a Leon (slgihtly larger storage space than Ibiza)!

You dont live in a town or city then?

I agree that the Ibiza is all over the place, slashes here. creases there then they put some crappy Austin Metro tail lights on the back?

I would prefer a Funki colored Fabia 3 Estate, lower it put some nice wheels on it 17" Roomster Scout or Scirroco, Fabia Sport Body kit... then Send it to Jabba for some Tweaking.

http://new.skoda-auto.com/com/model/newfabiacombi/...

[tridave]

Spiritual_Beggar said:

Pointless car!!!

Dont quite understand how you can have a Mini-hatchback Estate model. Doesnt make sense!! Whats the market for this? Isnt an Ibiaza Estate just going to be.....a Leon (slgihtly larger storage space than Ibiza)!

that what the BMW 1 series is ! pointless but people still by them

[Belfast Boy]

I like the " Ex Lamborghini Designer" bit......He started off his Career in VW with the MK1 Fabia.

[Deva Link]

Wouldn't it basically just be an A3?

[va1o]

Deva Link said:

Wouldn't it basically just be an A3?

No, this uses the new Polo platform, A3 uses the Golf platform.

[hornetrider]

The 1.4 petrol in the latest shape Ibiza is an astonishingly wheezy unit.

That is all.

[Belfast Boy]

va1o said:

Deva Link said:

Wouldn't it basically just be an A3?

No, this uses the new Polo platform, A3 uses the Golf platform.

It will just be a Fabia Estate!

and the Polo and Ibiza use Skoda platforms, like before......

not alot of people will like that

[va1o]

Belfast Boy said:

va1o said:

Deva Link said:

Wouldn't it basically just be an A3?

No, this uses the new Polo platform, A3 uses the Golf platform.

It will just be a Fabia Estate!

and the Polo and Ibiza use Skoda platforms, like before......

not alot of people will like that

Skoda platforms? Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

hornetrider said:

The 1.4 petrol in the latest shape Ibiza is an astonishingly wheezy unit.

That is all.

Yeah its a bit pathetic, but this should get the TSI units which are a lot nicer.

Edited by va1o on Friday 3rd April 15:19

[Belfast Boy]

va1o said:

Belfast Boy said:

va1o said:

Deva Link said:

Wouldn't it basically just be an A3?

No, this uses the new Polo platform, A3 uses the Golf platform.

It will just be a Fabia Estate!

and the Polo and Ibiza use Skoda platforms, like before......

not alot of people will like that

Skoda platforms? Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

hornetrider said:

The 1.4 petrol in the latest shape Ibiza is an astonishingly wheezy unit.

That is all.

Yeah its a bit pathetic, but this should get the TSI units which are a lot nicer.

Edited by va1o on Friday 3rd April 15:19

let me see 2000 Fabia came out, POLO and Ibiza on the same platform came out when? after using the Skoda as a Guinny Pig.
OR DOES EVERYTHING COME FROM VW?

[va1o]

Belfast Boy said:

let me see 2000 Fabia came out, POLO and Ibiza on the same platform came out when? after using the Skoda as a Guinny Pig.
OR DOES EVERYTHING COME FROM VW?

Just because Skoda get the platform first dosent mean its there own work. The Audi A3 was the first car to use the Golf MK5 platform, that dosent make it an Audi platform. Likewise the current Seat Ibiza debuted the new Polo PQ25 platform, again it wasnt made by Seat its a VW platform.

[LCR270]

Spiritual_Beggar said:

Pointless car!!!

Dont quite understand how you can have a Mini-hatchback Estate model. Doesnt make sense!! Whats the market for this? Isnt an Ibiaza Estate just going to be.....a Leon (slgihtly larger storage space than Ibiza)!

lolss like the golf v's vento or golf estate, wasn't there even a polo estate at one point - mental marketing

[Deva Link]

va1o said:

Belfast Boy said:

let me see 2000 Fabia came out, POLO and Ibiza on the same platform came out when? after using the Skoda as a Guinny Pig.
OR DOES EVERYTHING COME FROM VW?

Just because Skoda get the platform first dosent mean its there own work. The Audi A3 was the first car to use the Golf MK5 platform, that dosent make it an Audi platform. Likewise the current Seat Ibiza debuted the new Polo PQ25 platform, again it wasnt made by Seat its a VW platform.

I don't know, but surely they're all VAG platforms - the VW, Skoda, SEAT and Audi names are just for marketing purposes?
Chances are that there are engineers at all locations working on platform development.

[Belfast Boy]

Deva Link said:

va1o said:

Belfast Boy said:

let me see 2000 Fabia came out, POLO and Ibiza on the same platform came out when? after using the Skoda as a Guinny Pig.
OR DOES EVERYTHING COME FROM VW?

Just because Skoda get the platform first dosent mean its there own work. The Audi A3 was the first car to use the Golf MK5 platform, that dosent make it an Audi platform. Likewise the current Seat Ibiza debuted the new Polo PQ25 platform, again it wasnt made by Seat its a VW platform.

I don't know, but surely they're all VAG platforms - the VW, Skoda, SEAT and Audi names are just for marketing purposes?
Chances are that there are engineers at all locations working on platform development.

Indeed.....in Mlada Boslav (Skoda Factory and R&D), where I have been they where working with Bentley and Lambo projects.
In Wolfsburg, they press panels for SEAT,Audi and Skoda and if you see a 1.2 engine, or 1.4TDI it was built at the Skoda Factory.
I love the Meccano set of VAG.
Indeed the Names are Just for Marketing, but if you have your Blinkers on all you see is Branding.
The first car to use the component is the test bed for the rest.

[Belfast Boy]

ohh just to throw a spanner in the works the 1.4 wheezy engine has the same block as the Skoda Estelle/Rapids.
This was Licensed From the Renault Dauphine in the 1960s. its been around a while it will die off soon.

[ChrisDT]

Strike_J said:

Am I the only person who thinks the new Ibiza just doesn't look "right"? Its those lines/creases on the doors that make it look awkward. It deffinately doesn't have the style of the Leon.

Your not going to like the new Leon then... Not a lot different but going more 'Ibiza'.
The 1.4TSI (180ish ps) will be about very soon, this is obviously the Twincharger lump from VAG and in an Ibiza should be brilliant - mated to the new 7sp DSG with 'Flappy Paddles' will make a good B road car.

The 1.4 is a bit ashmatic but nowhere near as bad as the 1.6, once the 1400 is up and going it's fine, but it is only 85ps, The 1.2 is the engine that surprised me the most, it's actually not abd for a stupid little 3 cylinder lump, quite revvy and fun on the back roads.