after burner back light question
after burner back light question
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plumAJP

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1,149 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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if a cerb had these fitted from the factory was the pod housing fibre glassed in or were they pods that slipped into the recessed hole but just that bit fiurther compared to the fiesta style one the early models had?

Reason I ask i have found some for sale, the seller said he will remove them for me and i asked hime how! but i dont know what to expect. am i to expect a disc cutted light recess with the pods or can the be removed easily?

need to weigh up the cost of converting, whether it will be slot in and bond or fit in position and fibre glass and smooth etc.

any help is appreciated.

schimg

1,923 posts

283 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Not sure if this helps...but I have the Afterburner rear lights fitted in my chimaera...these are the original afterburner lights that fit both Chimaeras and Cerberas...I know cos my mate Jon M "CIRBY" has them in his 450...they are held in with self tappers...so easy to remove.

However if you are referring to the TVR rear light cluster with separate lights I cannot comment.

I was speaking with Julian at Fibreon a couple of weeks back he reconned he makes the afterburner style....handy for me to know as when I get my cerbie I will be fitting some..biggrin

Quentin1

468 posts

274 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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The housings for the MKII rear lights were bonded in with sikaflex. Easy to remove, easy to install.

Got a picture of the cluster, hope that helps, remember, that the glass is missing in the picture:



Regards,
Björn.

Edited by Quentin1 on Wednesday 8th April 13:45

plumAJP

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Wednesday 8th April 2009
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yes the lights with the 4 pods in them are the ones im refering to. so they are bonded in with sicaflex and self tappered also.


Quentin1

468 posts

274 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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exactly

plumAJP

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Wednesday 8th April 2009
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sweet, definetley getting these then.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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plumAJP said:
if a cerb had these fitted from the factory was the pod housing fibre glassed in or were they pods that slipped into the recessed hole but just that bit fiurther compared to the fiesta style one the early models had?

Reason I ask i have found some for sale, the seller said he will remove them for me and i asked hime how! but i dont know what to expect. am i to expect a disc cutted light recess with the pods or can the be removed easily?

need to weigh up the cost of converting, whether it will be slot in and bond or fit in position and fibre glass and smooth etc.

any help is appreciated.
Afterburner rear lights were never fitted by the factory. These are afterburner rear lights on mine. These were the first that quad conversions built for my car..............






Malam

719 posts

233 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Afterburners on my car, and the best imo biggrin


touching cloth

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269 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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As far as I know the factory rear quad light were part of the bodywork; however pods were available to upgrade earlier cars, where the pods were sikaflexed in I would guess this is a mod rather than how it left the factory. This follows a conversation I had with Bellhill when I enquired about buying the later rear light units (assuming they were separate and therefore removable item), they advised they had seen a few bonded in units in their time but on the whole not. As BT says, afterburners are a different thing and not a factory light unit at all.

Edited by touching cloth on Wednesday 8th April 21:18

plumAJP

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Wednesday 8th April 2009
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i didn't know what the pod style rear light design was called so i just called them afterburners.

i have seen the proper after burners like the ones in the recent photos on eaby for like £80 surely fiesta lights can't be that much.

I was thinking of these lights but i want a smoked chrome not a sliver chrowe as the car is dark and i want to keep the dark theme going. no bling on the outside.

are yours smoked chrome or black plastic lights?

plumAJP

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219 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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malam any pictures of your light up in the night?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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plumAJP said:
i didn't know what the pod style rear light design was called so i just called them afterburners.

i have seen the proper after burners like the ones in the recent photos on eaby for like £80 surely fiesta lights can't be that much.

I was thinking of these lights but i want a smoked chrome not a sliver chrowe as the car is dark and i want to keep the dark theme going. no bling on the outside.

are yours smoked chrome or black plastic lights?
Although the moulds are based around the fiesta. The actual light units are Hella l.e.d units.

Malam

719 posts

233 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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plumAJP said:
malam any pictures of your light up in the night?
Sorry buddy, mine's in pieces at the moment biggrin

Quentin1

468 posts

274 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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touching cloth said:
As far as I know the factory rear quad light were part of the bodywork; however pods were available to upgrade earlier cars, where the pods were sikaflexed in I would guess this is a mod rather than how it left the factory. This follows a conversation I had with Bellhill when I enquired about buying the later rear light units (assuming they were separate and therefore removable item), they advised they had seen a few bonded in units in their time but on the whole not. As BT says, afterburners are a different thing and not a factory light unit at all.

Edited by touching cloth on Wednesday 8th April 21:18
Untrue.

Mine is a 2001 car and left the factory with the MKII single rear lights as seen in the picture above. And the cluster is definately sikaflexed in, as you can see.

Regards,
Björn.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Quentin1 said:
touching cloth said:
As far as I know the factory rear quad light were part of the bodywork; however pods were available to upgrade earlier cars, where the pods were sikaflexed in I would guess this is a mod rather than how it left the factory. This follows a conversation I had with Bellhill when I enquired about buying the later rear light units (assuming they were separate and therefore removable item), they advised they had seen a few bonded in units in their time but on the whole not. As BT says, afterburners are a different thing and not a factory light unit at all.

Edited by touching cloth on Wednesday 8th April 21:18
Untrue.

Mine is a 2001 car and left the factory with the MKII single rear lights as seen in the picture above. And the cluster is definately sikaflexed in, as you can see.

Regards,
Björn.
Perhaps a crossover car then and TVR used an older rear end and modified with a pod; I can't see why Bellhill would not want to sell these items if they were removable on all the later style cars, it would be one hell of easy upgrade part for them to shift with strong demand.

Edited by touching cloth on Thursday 9th April 08:46

Quentin1

468 posts

274 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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touching cloth said:
Quentin1 said:
touching cloth said:
As far as I know the factory rear quad light were part of the bodywork; however pods were available to upgrade earlier cars, where the pods were sikaflexed in I would guess this is a mod rather than how it left the factory. This follows a conversation I had with Bellhill when I enquired about buying the later rear light units (assuming they were separate and therefore removable item), they advised they had seen a few bonded in units in their time but on the whole not. As BT says, afterburners are a different thing and not a factory light unit at all.

Edited by touching cloth on Wednesday 8th April 21:18
Untrue.

Mine is a 2001 car and left the factory with the MKII single rear lights as seen in the picture above. And the cluster is definately sikaflexed in, as you can see.

Regards,
Björn.
Perhaps a crossover car then and TVR used an older rear end and modified with a pod; I can't see why Bellhill would not want to sell these items if they were removable on all the later style cars, it would be one hell of easy upgrade part for them to shift with strong demand.

Edited by touching cloth on Thursday 9th April 08:46
Hmm, at least we are talking about TVR, so that might be possible then...I cannot say for sure, just describe the situation on my car.

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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plumAJP said:
yes the lights with the 4 pods in them are the ones im refering to. so they are bonded in with sicaflex and self tappered also.
To fit them you have to do a lot of chopping away on the inside of the light. But don;t worry, it's not difficult, you need a small cutting tool, a Dremel is ideal, and you cut away all the fibreglass that is inside the light apeerture so you have a nice smooth finish. You may also need to chop away bits from the new pod. Keep doing this until the new pod fits snugly in place. Drill 4 small holes in the corners of the light aperture recess, where the perspex cover fits. Slap on loads of Sikaflex, put it in place, then screw in 4 self tappers to hold it in place till the Sikaflex has gone off. When it has, remove the self tappers, fill the holes with a blob of araldite, and smooth off when dry.
The hardest job is actually trying to source the actual lights themselves, they're off an old Land Rover !

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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JensenA said:
plumAJP said:
yes the lights with the 4 pods in them are the ones im refering to. so they are bonded in with sicaflex and self tappered also.
To fit them you have to do a lot of chopping away on the inside of the light. But don;t worry, it's not difficult, you need a small cutting tool, a Dremel is ideal, and you cut away all the fibreglass that is inside the light apeerture so you have a nice smooth finish. You may also need to chop away bits from the new pod. Keep doing this until the new pod fits snugly in place. Drill 4 small holes in the corners of the light aperture recess, where the perspex cover fits. Slap on loads of Sikaflex, put it in place, then screw in 4 self tappers to hold it in place till the Sikaflex has gone off. When it has, remove the self tappers, fill the holes with a blob of araldite, and smooth off when dry.
The hardest job is actually trying to source the actual lights themselves, they're off an old Land Rover !
I had plenty of the lights. They are not Land Rover lights. They are infact an m.o.d/nato fittment,and fitted amongst others not only to LR,s. But Bedford and Leyland 4 tonners and CVRT,s. There is more than a plentiful supply of them if you know where to look. People shouldnt limit there search to e-bay. Expect to pay around £5 used.£15 new per lense