RDF/RSS News Feed

[Bodo]

Hi Ted,
In order to get organized, I migrated from my trusty email-client to a comprehensive groupware. Beside email features and other stuff, it offers an RDF/RSS news feed on the start page:



These news are updated in a preselectable interval, show the headlines of the selected nes providers, which link to the www-page in a new browser window.
There are some boring IT-news feeds available in the preferences, but nothing for motoring.

Would you like to offer one?
I assume that feature is not only part of Ximian Evolution, but for Notes, Outlook, etc. as well? (anyone know it?)

I didn't dive deep into the knowledge of creating news feeds for websites, but it isn't surely more than a simple script, that creates a file with primitive formats, everytime news are updated?

A quick websearch returned
www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/12/18/dive-into-xml.html
www.w3.org/2001/10/glance/doc/howto
www.aplawrence.com/Unix/simplerssfeed.html
http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/2175271

Comments and corrections from everyone are welcome

[FourWheelDrift]

Edited as I had uploaded the wrong one. But it is just a small script as Bodo says. Don't have an example to show though.

If I can find the code I'll upload the right one.

I think I need a coffee

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 17th November 15:57

[PetrolTed]

I'll try to knock one out. Got a few things under development at the moment.

[Bodo]

cool!

[oldbanger]

dragging an old thread out of the ashes ...

long time lurker, 2nd post ...

please, please, if you you haven't already, please think about a new feed

more info at
www.atomenabled.org/
www.syndic8.com/

oldbanger
(now, is that me, or the car, ... or both????)

[PetrolTed]

I have been looking at some of these technologies in slightly greater depth in the last week. One thing I'm still not clear on is (apart from Bodo's example), who uses RSS feeds? Why for example would you like to see one and where would you take the feed?

[oldbanger]

I suppose the big reason is that I use a news aggregator - which makes reading rss news feeds a bit like reading newsgroups (eg. in Outlook).

I personally use Tristiana, though there's quite a few others (www.charlwood.com/tristana/)

The main reason is convenience. People can choose to pick up news from Pistonheads alongside the BBC news headlines and the Register (or whatever else has taken their fancy) - it gets delivered to their desktop. They'd still have to visit your site to get the full article - but they could browse headlines and intro paragraphs at ease.

I know PH is extremely popular, and rightly so, but I think that this would make it more accessable to an even wider audience. Oh, and the technology is increasingly being used by tech-savvy journalists, though I'm just joe pub with a new tech toy ...

a better explanation can be found at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/3223484.stm?rss=http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/front_page/rss091.xml

oldbanger

[PetrolTed]

Thanks. That makes a lot of sense now.

It shouldn't be particularly difficult to implement - just need to find some time

[PetrolTed]

Interesting. Been looking into this.

How many people here use RSS news readers?

[TJMurphy]

Yup, I use a thing called FeedDemon, but to be honest so much of the stuff is IT related I don't use it that much.

[FunkyGibbon]

I have FeedReader running in the background. Pops up when any new feed I've subcribed too is updated. Unobtrusive, usually ignored, but sometimes very useful.

[FunkyGibbon]

PetrolTed said:

I have been looking at some of these technologies in slightly greater depth in the last week. One thing I'm still not clear on is (apart from Bodo's example), who uses RSS feeds? Why for example would you like to see one and where would you take the feed?

There's presentation on RSS here http://rzepa.ch.ic.ac.uk/talks/rsc04/ it relates to chemical publishing, but you'll get the general idea. Some useful link there too.

[Bodo]

I'd still have some use for a news feed

[rjben]

Yep, use feeddeamon, would love an RSS from the forum so that I could see replies in real time without xconstantly logging in......any chance of it Ted?

[PetrolTed]

That's an interesting idea...

Not sure how practical that one is. Would you want notification of each new post in one forum or just of new topics?

[FunkyGibbon]

PetrolTed said:

That's an interesting idea... Not sure how practical that one is. Would you want notification of each new post in one forum or just of new topics?

Should be quite easy either way. All you'd need do is set up a script that got the latest updates (to either forum or direct to new post) and the viewer's RSS software will check for updates.

If you haven't taken a look at RSS feed yet (which you probably have) just look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/world/rss091.xml in Internet Explorer and you'll get the format of the feed. This file contains many topics, but the XML has a lastBuildDatein it. The RSS browser reads this to only add the "new" stories to the list in your browser.

So, the easiest thing to do would be to create a RSS version of the What's New page in this format and Robert should be you mother's brother.

[gasman]

Hi Ted,

Any progress on this front?

Mark

[PetrolTed]

Sort of. Done a lot more XML stuff since so now I do know what's required and know that it shouldn't take too long.

I'll knock it up when I get a moment.

[Ork]

Would defintely offer yet more positive feedback about the current rate of uptake of RSS feeds and news reader software. The outfit I work for are promoting this heavily to our user base.

A Pistonheads RSS feed would be total magic!

[pentoman]

Here's a snapshot of my desktop... along the right side of the screen I have a newsfeed program, showing the feed from carkeys. Clicking each heading takes you to the article, and it updates in the background, so you can see the new articles that are put on the site. It cycles through all the newsfeeds I have, once a minute or so. Would work perfectly for pistonheads.com.


NB I hear it's becoming a big thing soon.





That's 'desktop sidebar' by the way which I'm using for my newsfeed. Very geek.


Russ
'86 190E, '62 Elan

>> Edited by pentoman on Thursday 18th November 23:16