What's happening on the A40?

What's happening on the A40?

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motco

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15,981 posts

247 months

Tuesday 18th November 2003
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There's more BiB on the A40 just outside Beaconsfield Old Town than there are in Downing Street when Dubya's here! There's a "safety" camera van on the A355 just off the M40 - no warning signs - and dozens of BiB pulling cars seemingly at random as they enter the town itself. A Honda Concerto legged it just as I came through an hour ago - last seen haring west along the A40 towards High Wycombe out of the Beaconsfield Old Town with a jam sandwich and a BiB bike in hot pursuit.

So - what's happening then?

puggit

48,521 posts

249 months

Tuesday 18th November 2003
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Sounds like ANPR to me

jazzybee

3,056 posts

250 months

Tuesday 18th November 2003
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Scamera under the Target Roundabout this evening eastbound during rush hour.

bluesatin

3,114 posts

273 months

Tuesday 18th November 2003
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They were doing this on the A40 in Wycombe last friday

zetec

4,471 posts

252 months

Tuesday 18th November 2003
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3 deaths in one week is the reason I think??

RichB

51,704 posts

285 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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And a Scam£ra is going to stop morons killing themselves eh? Doh Rich...

tonyrec

3,984 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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RichB said:
And a Scam£ra is going to stop morons killing themselves eh? Doh Rich...


No, but it MAY slow them down a bit and hopefully they wont wrap themselves around that particular roundabout tonight.

tonyrec

3,984 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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Just prior to that last night, i stopped someone for doing 77 in a 40 on the A40 and do you know what he said to me?

"I thought that i would get away with it tonight because you are all supposed to be tied up with the Bush visit"...lol

count duckula

1,324 posts

275 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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tonyrec said:

"I thought that i would get away with it tonight because you are all supposed to be tied up with the Bush visit"...lol





Malc

Henry-F

4,791 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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As I understand things the accident on Monday (I think it was) on the A40 involved a stolen BMW driven into a lorry. I believe the lorry driver was killed. How the hell are speed cameras going to stop that happening.

The lorry driver is limited to 56mph so he wasn`t speeding. The twa*s in the BMW are hardly going to think oh my god, there`s a speed camera -we`re going to get flashed are they. If anything I would think they see it as a challenge to see if they can set a new record for that particular camera.

What would be a far better idea would be to have some form of removeable "pin" that when taken out of the car by it`s owner renders the safety cell protection useless and ensures the car crumples on impact thus reducing damage to other vehicles. Sadly the stolen car`s occupants would be turned into slush puppies but hey ho.

No doubt some liberal tree hugging politician will find holes in my brilliant idea but you`ve got to keep trying.

Love `n stuff.

Henry

-Bacchus-

178 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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Tony / Will

Were either of you out in a marked BMW, on Sunday night on the A40?

tonyrec

3,984 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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Henry-F said:
As I understand things the accident on Monday (I think it was) on the A40 involved a stolen BMW driven into a lorry. I believe the lorry driver was killed. How the hell are speed cameras going to stop that happening.

The lorry driver is limited to 56mph so he wasn`t speeding. The twa*s in the BMW are hardly going to think oh my god, there`s a speed camera -we`re going to get flashed are they. If anything I would think they see it as a challenge to see if they can set a new record for that particular camera.

What would be a far better idea would be to have some form of removeable "pin" that when taken out of the car by it`s owner renders the safety cell protection useless and ensures the car crumples on impact thus reducing damage to other vehicles. Sadly the stolen car`s occupants would be turned into slush puppies but hey ho.

No doubt some liberal tree hugging politician will find holes in my brilliant idea but you`ve got to keep trying.

Love `n stuff.

Henry


It was 2 BMW's neither of which were stolen, and they were responsible for the crash.

A few days earlier, 2 people died a mile further East on the A40 where a sppeding car caused the crash and killed another innocent motorist.
We have info that shows that this driver had been speeding up and then slowing down for the cameras so applying this theory... if there had been a camera at the crash location then the Collision would not have happened as the driver was slowing down for them.

How long is a piece of string?

tonyrec

3,984 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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-Bacchus- said:
Tony / Will

Were either of you out in a marked BMW, on Sunday night on the A40?


Neither of us as we were weekend off.

RichB

51,704 posts

285 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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Tony, sorry but nothing will ever convince me that Speed Cameras make any impression at all on the type of people that cause these crashes. They usually drive with no insurance and probabaly have no licence to loose. You and I may drive at 45-50 down there because of the presence of speed cameras but if some moron comes over the central reservation out of control at 100 mph my number up if he hits me. The speed camera would do nothing to influence that type of accident.

Sorry I don't believe the hype. Rich...

>> Edited by RichB on Wednesday 19th November 10:09

>> Edited by RichB on Wednesday 19th November 10:09

-Bacchus-

178 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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tonyrec said:

Neither of us as we were weekend off.


Sounds disturbingly like "He is my partner and also my lover....."
I hope you had a good time

I only asked as when I passed the aforementioned fuzzmobile the passenger was staring so much it was making me paranoid. I was barely speeding, so wondered if I had actually done something else...

Henry-F

4,791 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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Bacchus - I have the same problem. Can we help it if we`ve been blessed with such good looks.

Henry

ADL

7,817 posts

252 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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I see the logic Tony we just need to have speed cameras all along the road then everyone will keep to the limit, in fact it would work.

PGM

2,168 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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SPECS would do it - expensive though!

Cheers
Paul

RichB

51,704 posts

285 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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Except the hair-brain with nothing to loose, no licence, no insurance, no tax, no mot, and often given false confidence by the drugs the government want to legalise, you know the guys in their mid-twenties and the sup’ed up GTi.

Near me (some of you may know the road) there is a well separated dual carriageway (joins M4 Braywick spur to Maidenhead town centre) it didn't used to have cameras but is a 40 limit as there is a sports field and a cemetery along the stretch.

18 months ago some guy wipes out half a house just before the ESSO garage in a VW Golf travelling at around 100mph. He and girlfriend were killed, fortunately the occupants of the house were on holiday at the time

Within a few months we’ve got cameras and Talivans all over the place because of the outcry in the local paper about this “officially” dangerous road. Would cameras have stopped the arse-hole driving down there at 100, of course not. Have the cameras worked? Well they've made lots of money but wouldn't have prevented that fatal crash.

Rich...

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

257 months

Wednesday 19th November 2003
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PGM said:
SPECS would do it - expensive though!

Cheers
Paul

If the Government gets too worried about everyone believing the revenue-raising line, the blanket implementation of SPECS would be a good way to demonstrate its commitment to safety over revenue. The Talivans would then be used on safe roads to continue funding the headcount.