Fast rolling tyres - your recommendations
Fast rolling tyres - your recommendations
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Moose.

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5,345 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I'm currently running 2.35" High Rollers on my hardtail (super-tacky front, 60a rear) which are amazing in wet/muddy conditions but I'm finding them a bit draggy in the dry conditions we've had lately. Has anyone got any recommendations for some faster rolling tyres that'll still grip rock/packed dirt adequately?

cheers smile

mk1fan

10,847 posts

248 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Swap the Super tacky for a 60a dura and add a couple of psi and the bike will run a lot faster in dry, hardpack conditions.

MTFU and ride round the problem. The extra effort will pay dividends come Winter wink

a11y_m

1,861 posts

245 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Agree with MTFU wink but alternatively you could try a Maxxis ADvantage 2.25 on the rear. Keep the High Roller on the front though for front-end grip.

I stuck a spare 2.25 ADvantage on the rear of my big bike (Giant Reign) after tearing a High Roller singleply sidewall, and it works surprisingly well. Not as much outright grip or traction for braking, but perfect for more conditions. And they roll a lot quicker than a High Roller.

I've also picked up a set of Specialized 2.30 tyres (can't remember model but they came off a 2008 Specialized Pitch) second hand but unused. The tread resembles the High Roller pattern but lower profile. Should be similar behaviour but quicker rolling but I've yet to actually try them.

theboymoon

2,699 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I'm currently experimenting with 2.35 Maxxis Ardent upfront with a 2.25 Maxxis Crossmax on the rear.

Searching for that elusive perfect aggressive XC/trail centre set up. I quite like this option, the Ardent up front is quite like a slightly less grippy Minion while the Crossmax on the rear is super quick and still gives enough grip as long as it isn't muddy. Totally and utterly useless in the mud akin to lairy cerbera in the wet while wearing lead shoes!

In terms of grip vs rolling resistance its a really good setup. Rolls waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than minions front and rear but still plenty of clinging on ability

Before that i had some Kenda Nevegal Tomacs which i loved but kept on getting pinch flats and eventually a passing rock ripped a hole in the tyre sidewall.

Edited by theboymoon on Tuesday 14th April 15:22

Moose.

Original Poster:

5,345 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I am trying to MTFU but anything to help me along's always good wink

Moonie - did you mean Maxxis Crossmax or Crossmark? I was looking at the Crossmarks which look temptingly cheap so might give them a go on the rear.

theboymoon

2,699 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Moose. said:
I am trying to MTFU but anything to help me along's always good wink

Moonie - did you mean Maxxis Crossmax or Crossmark? I was looking at the Crossmarks which look temptingly cheap so might give them a go on the rear.
skis on the brain sometimes - yes Crossmark.

As i say as long as your local trails are not often gloopy-mud they are great!

Big Bob

753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Ive been running a pair of Maxxis Ranchero's the last few weeks, good on hardpack but pants on anything else. Had a demo bike with Conti Mountain Kings on recently too, very quick and confidence boosting tyres.

mk1fan

10,847 posts

248 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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If you really want to roll fast you should try a set of Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres. I ran a set on my S-Works FSR for a Summer and they were a hoot. 65psi puncture protection and low rolling resistance. Weren't too bad off road either but didn't like gravely / loose rock descents.

Lord Croker

7,355 posts

212 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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DMR Moto Digger - great on all dry surfaces, fast rolling, and good puncture resistance smile

delusional

82 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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a11y_m said:
I've also picked up a set of Specialized 2.30 tyres (can't remember model but they came off a 2008 Specialized Pitch) second hand but unused. The tread resembles the High Roller pattern but lower profile. Should be similar behaviour but quicker rolling but I've yet to actually try them.
If those are the same as my Pitch came with (Eskar Controls?) then they're pretty good in the dry (although they don't really inspire loads of confidence), but utterly rubbish in any sort of mud. I've been looking at getting something that hooks up a little better in wet conditions as even when it's been really dry lately most of the trails I ride have wet patches that I'm sliding all over.
I'll probably just MTFU and deal with it until I wear these out though.

I was thinking of trying out the CrossMark tyres (in large part due to MBR using them as their control tyre) but the comments above about their wet performance kind of worries me!

WildCards

4,061 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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I like Larsen TT's.

a11y_m

1,861 posts

245 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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delusional said:
a11y_m said:
I've also picked up a set of Specialized 2.30 tyres (can't remember model but they came off a 2008 Specialized Pitch) second hand but unused. The tread resembles the High Roller pattern but lower profile. Should be similar behaviour but quicker rolling but I've yet to actually try them.
If those are the same as my Pitch came with (Eskar Controls?) then they're pretty good in the dry (although they don't really inspire loads of confidence), but utterly rubbish in any sort of mud. I've been looking at getting something that hooks up a little better in wet conditions as even when it's been really dry lately most of the trails I ride have wet patches that I'm sliding all over.
I'll probably just MTFU and deal with it until I wear these out though.

I was thinking of trying out the CrossMark tyres (in large part due to MBR using them as their control tyre) but the comments above about their wet performance kind of worries me!
Ah dammit, I think they are the Eskar Control (they definately came off a mate's Pitch). Only paid £15 the pair though so not a disaster if they're rubbish, bought them mainly for a trip to France in June - should be dry I hope! They looked like a shaved-down version of High Rollers to me: very similar tread design/pattern but less depth, so I'm taking a chance on them being similar characteristics but less grippy overall.

Beyond Rational

3,544 posts

238 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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I've been reading good things about Continental Mountain Kings (especially with the stickier compound) but haven't tried any myself yet.

hman

7,497 posts

217 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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I use Maxxis Crossmark 2.1's at 40-60psi, They are fine for riding the phoenix trail (p. risborough) which is a hard pack trail, but if you go off into the woods where theres some good downhills on clay then they clog quickly and are not much cop.

On the roads and pavements with them up at 60 psi they are a very fast tyre, with the option to hop on to the pavement and across the grass with plenty of grip.

They have a ridge of blocks around the centreline of the tyre which gives them their straight line speed.

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

250 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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Schwalbe Racing Ralph or Fast Fred are what you need. Supremely fast rolling on any hard/dry surface yet stable and quite grippy too.
I use the Ralphs and they cope well enough in the wet but with low profile tread don't like anything too muddy.

PomBstard

7,668 posts

265 months

Saturday 18th April 2009
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WildCards said:
I like Larsen TT's.
Same here, but only on the rear. A lot of the riding here is hard, dry firetrail and singletrack, and the Larsen is just the job. Currently using Maxxis Ignitor on the front, for a bit of extra grunt going up rocky bits, but will prob look for something different soon as we get towards winter. Agree about Crossmarks being a bit crap in the wet.

A mate uses Kenda Small Block 8 front and rear and seems to like them.

BOR

5,086 posts

278 months

Saturday 18th April 2009
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I agree with 5-6-7-8. I have a set of Racing Ralphs and they are pretty fast. But not grip for me, in anything but dry hard pack, so have moved onto Continental Mountain King. Still fast, but with more grip and a more rounded profile, which does make the bike easier to turn.