Mk3 MR2 SP Turbo 197 v VX Turbo as daily driver & track car?
Mk3 MR2 SP Turbo 197 v VX Turbo as daily driver & track car?
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daveknott5

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738 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Ok chaps, opinions please! I'm thinking of either buying a MK3 MR2 - say a 2003 for around £5k, and then adding the Silverstone Performance Stage 1 Turbo kit (Power upgraded to 197Bhp, cost = £5697) or buying a 2004 VX 220 Turbo for around £12k.

The total cost of the MR2 + Silverstone Performance package would be around £10.5k vs around £12k for the VX Turbo.

The car would be my daily driver, so would have to cope with year round driving, motorway miles and the urban crawl around London. For the rest of the time it'd have to be able to entertain on a back road, and pound out lap after lap with minimal wear + cost on the occasional trackday (I usually do around 3 trackdays per year).

Which one would you go for?

Dakkon

7,829 posts

277 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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The VX will destroy a MkIII MR2 round a track with or without a turbo, but they don't have much storage space.

mikey P 500

1,243 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Interesting choice, I am currently selling an Elise (not too far from a vx220 in terms of practicality), and have considered replacing it with a mk3 mr2 with either a turbo kit fitted or a 2zz 190bhp celica engine fitted (and maybe even super charge that depending on budget could get you to 260bhp).
I am however more likely to buy an s2000 as the mk3 mr2 has no rear boot (in fact the vx220 has more storage space). But would prefer the mk3 mr2 for the light weight.
There was a turboed mk3 last time I was at Bedford aerodrome was going well until it had engine troubles and had to retire.

daveknott5

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738 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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To be honest guys, outright speed round the track isn't as important to me as pure FUN - i.e., which one would put the most smiles per mile on my face and still do the day to day grind as well......

RogueMotorsport

246 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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We're actually seeing a significant increase in the amount of people buying MR2 Roadsters for track use. I'm pretty sure I know the car you saw at Bedford and if it's the same car it turned out to be a failed wheel bearing. That car is currently equipped with the standard 1ZZ and SP turbo kit, but is going 2ZZ turbo very shortly.

We've also installed a 2ZZ compressor engine from a Corolla into an MR2 Roadster - essentially the same setup as the non-intercooled supercharged elise. That went well! We're currently researching more powerful, intercooled SC solutions.

Finally, we're putting together engine and gearbox oil cooling packages for the mk3. I think it's been a significantly underestimated car in the past and with a 2ZZ engine installed can rightfully be considered as comparable with the Elise / VX.

Patrick

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

238 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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might not matter to you but your getting into a specialist market with modified cars and i think you'd loose a packet when/if you wanted to get out of the converted MR2. Stick with he VX they are great cars, may mate had a vx220 turbo, good even when standard, not saying the MR2 is bad by the way.

Adrian Gumball

398 posts

226 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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MX5 for track car (sub 3k for an all in track day, legal, road car) and the rest for a good road car? (BMW 330 E46?)

Sorry for the usual "MX5" answer but it might help you!

AG

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

222 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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If you go for the MR2 make sure its a late one, early engines are like chocolate and thats before adding turbos.

daveknott5

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738 posts

243 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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That's strange, I thought the MK3 MR2 was pretty bullet proof..?

Some great points though lads, many thanks. I am a little worried about spunking a load of cash on something that won't be worth much afterwards though.... Maybe I'd be better off going the VX route....

The only problem with the VX though is things I've heard about leaking roofs and terrible heating in winter, with "only a trickle" coming out of the vents....

Not good if this is to be my year round car... My other thought is to save hard and get myself a 2005 E46 M3 CS......

JJCW

2,449 posts

210 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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The VX turbo has different roof seals, so doesn't leak like the NA model does.
Also, their is a mod that makes the heater much much better, do a search on vx220.org for the heater mod, i can't remember its name offhand smile

chris7676

2,685 posts

244 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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Not sure but I think the MR2 MK3 has no boot ?

daveknott5

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738 posts

243 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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Cheers JJCW! Will check that mod out. The Mk3 MR2 doesn't have a boot, it has two "lockers" behind the seats + a tiny area under the front bonnet. Not too worried about that though as all I ever carry to work is my laptop and my sports kit. Don't exactly need a cavernous boot!

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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daveknott5 said:
My other thought is to save hard and get myself a 2005 E46 M3 CS......
well if your opening up the proposition of other cars porsche 968's are great fun and very practical to.

minerva

756 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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I sold an 04 VXT with a stage 3 (260bhp ish) for £10750 earlier this year. Very fast and a lot of fun. Takes a bit of dedication to use it all year round, though. The windscreen will ice up on the inside in winter, there is not a reliable heater mod (heater is rubbish, btw). But... on a sunny day, it is tremendous fun and thoroughly recommended.

Join vx220.org. It is THE best forum I have ever been a member of.

Adrian Gumball

398 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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minerva said:
Join vx220.org. It is THE best forum I have ever been a member of.
You should be banned from here wink