N8TS - The ROC has been moved to Bl**dy China!!!!!
N8TS - The ROC has been moved to Bl**dy China!!!!!
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jellison

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Thursday 16th April 2009
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74486

Utterly Stupid - they have a huge fan base of informed Motorsport fans (yes they have a huge population. But FFS!



The 2009 Race of Champions will be held at Beijing, immediately after Formula 1's inaugural Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, organisers announced today.

The event, which was held in Wembley Stadium in London, England, in the last couple of years, will be the first international sporting event to be held in the Bird's Nest stadium since the Olympic Games last summer.

Additionally, the event will be held for the first time in the middle of the week, rather than on a weekend, and just two days after the F1 season comes to a close at Abu Dhabi.

The 2009 event will run over two days, the first day on Tuesday, November 3rd, staging the Nations Cup, which was won by Germany last year. The Race of Champions will be held on the following day. World Rally champion Sebastien Loeb took the title in the 2008 event.

Speaking about the move, Fredrik Johnsson, President of Event Organisers IMP, stated: "we received exciting proposals from five world-class stadia, but after the incredible Olympics last year, Beijing's candidacy was difficult to ignore.

"The Bird's Nest venue is awesome, and having spent the last five years at two of Europe's biggest stadiums, we were thrilled about the opportunity to take the Race of Champions to Asia for the first time, to another of the world's most iconic sporting arenas."

Mr Li Jianyi, General Manager of Beijing CITIC Consortium Stadium Management, the managing company of the Bird's Nest, said of the agreement: "Following last year's Olympics, we now possess one of the world's best sporting stadia and will continue to stage elite international sporting competition in Beijing.

"We are very excited about The Race of Champions coming. The stadium has already hosted the world's fastest athletes; now it will host the world's fastest racers."

The Race of Champions was first held in 1988 as a competition between rally drivers, but in 2004 was relaunched as a battle between motorsport drivers from leading series, including Formula 1, WRC, NASCAR, endurance racing, and karting.

The event was held at the Stade de France in Paris between 2004 and 2006, then moving to Wembley Stadium for the past couple of years. And despite leaving Europe for the first time, Johnsson has promised the Race of Champions will return to its origins in the future.

"I would like to say thank you to Wembley for the past two years," Johnsson said. "The people there were great to work with and helped us put on two fantastic events. This year will be the Race of Champions' first year outside of Europe, but we will definitely be back soon."


TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Oh poo. We've been for the last couple of years, and were going to treat our dad if the ROC was in Europe for 2009.

However, beijing's a bit far.

Having said that, with the attendance at Wembley being what it was, can you really blame them for at least moving it out of the UK?

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
Having said that, with the attendance at Wembley being what it was, can you really blame them for at least moving it out of the UK?
It's not rocket science though is it ?

First year was over-priced and poorly served in terms of facilities like food and drink.

Second year was better, but still not very well promoted IMO.

Wembley also comes across as being a somewhat soul-less place for anything where it's not filled to capacity. I seem to recall they had no problem filling the Stade de France when it was run there, so what's the difference ?

If they could get over the fact that this isn't a football match and price the event accordingly, and not try and charge a fortune for the food concessions, then maybe it would have been a bigger success. That said Wembley can be tedious to get to and parking is a pain, so I expect that put a lot of people off too.

I wanted to go last year, but it ended up looking like being an expensive day out to sit in the cold. My sofa and Sky were a much more pleasant option wink

At the end of the day, moving it to China is probably the best solution for an event which seemed increasingly made for TV rather than a live audience.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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and if it's anything like their F1, they'll be getting people in for free to save face and avoid empty grandstands, so ticket prices won't be an issue smile (assuming you happen to be in the area...)

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Nick M said:
TonyHetherington said:
Having said that, with the attendance at Wembley being what it was, can you really blame them for at least moving it out of the UK?
It's not rocket science though is it ?

First year was over-priced and poorly served in terms of facilities like food and drink.
Due to a corporate blag we had seats that were being sold to the public for £125... which, quite frankly is shocking.

The view was good, and the entertainment pretty good, but so overpriced it was a joke. If the stadium was 25% full I'd be amazed.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I can't imagine anybody apart from the media would fly all the way to Beijing for this, let alone top level drivers be bothered to do it!

williamp

20,399 posts

302 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Nick M said:
TonyHetherington said:
Having said that, with the attendance at Wembley being what it was, can you really blame them for at least moving it out of the UK?
It's not rocket science though is it ?

First year was over-priced and poorly served in terms of facilities like food and drink.

Second year was better, but still not very well promoted IMO.

Wembley also comes across as being a somewhat soul-less place for anything where it's not filled to capacity. I seem to recall they had no problem filling the Stade de France when it was run there, so what's the difference ?

If they could get over the fact that this isn't a football match and price the event accordingly, and not try and charge a fortune for the food concessions, then maybe it would have been a bigger success. That said Wembley can be tedious to get to and parking is a pain, so I expect that put a lot of people off too.

I wanted to go last year, but it ended up looking like being an expensive day out to sit in the cold. My sofa and Sky were a much more pleasant option wink

At the end of the day, moving it to China is probably the best solution for an event which seemed increasingly made for TV rather than a live audience.
I went to one at paris and it was busy, but nowhere near full. It was very good value for moeny though. As usual... Rip off britain was more expensive for less (no jet powered dragsters making their own fog in the stadium like there was in Paris, for example).

Still, a shame its gone to Beijing. They'll get a full grandstand, but I cant see many people knowing whats going on.

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I enjoyed 2007's edition. It's nice to go to something different. I suppose the move to Asia was inevitable eventually...

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Nick M said:
TonyHetherington said:
Having said that, with the attendance at Wembley being what it was, can you really blame them for at least moving it out of the UK?
It's not rocket science though is it ?

First year was over-priced and poorly served in terms of facilities like food and drink.
Wembley's Wembley - there's not much they can do about the food and drink. But the pricing I agree entirely; my bro and I took our dad, and massive car/racing enthusiasts that we are we still struggled with spending £300 on the tickets alone for mediocre seats (though we were lucky the view was great, they were only middle of the road seats).

It was barely advertised at all though - which I think was their downfall.

sjg

7,676 posts

294 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Nick M said:
I seem to recall they had no problem filling the Stade de France when it was run there, so what's the difference ?
Ticket prices. I never got around to going when it was in Paris, but I could have bought a ticket plus eurostar travel for less than some of the better seats at Wembley. From what I remember seats were in the 15-30 euro range.

BigBen

12,158 posts

259 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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sjg said:
Nick M said:
I seem to recall they had no problem filling the Stade de France when it was run there, so what's the difference ?
Ticket prices. I never got around to going when it was in Paris, but I could have bought a ticket plus eurostar travel for less than some of the better seats at Wembley. From what I remember seats were in the 15-30 euro range.
Not quite that cheap iirc and I went a couple of times in Paris, but you are correct in that ticket + easyjet / eurostar was not far off the same price as a middling ticket at Wembley. The Stade de France also seemed to be much fuller so had a better atmosphere

Ben

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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It wasn't really a raging success at Wembley, the place was empty. A shame to go so far away from the home of motorsport though.

jellison

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Thursday 16th April 2009
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The view from almost everywhere at Wembley is excellent - anyone who paid over 35 quid for a ticket needs their head read.
Yep every bloody thing is going to ASIA - Money talks and teh UK has none now - have you not heard we are almost back to being a third worl nation (it is the chavs' I blame).

garycat

5,384 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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They should have "proper" racing in karts like the Bercy 1993 event. Hamilton vs Schuey in equal machinery anyone?

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Never appealed to me - high ticket price for what seemed to be a fairly contrived event, I honestly can't say I've even felt the need to watch it on TV either.

The original (pre-1994) incarnation seemed far more interesting.

jellison

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306 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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It was cheap for the last 2 years for me - mid level seats for 30 -40 quid - all the seating is the same!!!!

Alfie Noakes

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299 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Race of Champions
Republic of China

Seems logical to me.

Like several others I always thought it was a waste of space. I mean the RoC of course not the RoC.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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£40 isn't cheap when I can go to a BTCC, WTCC or DTM meet at Brands for around £25, which is 8 hours of entertainment. Heck, even A1GP is only £30.

jellison

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Friday 17th April 2009
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kevin ritson said:
£40 isn't cheap when I can go to a BTCC, WTCC or DTM meet at Brands for around £25, which is 8 hours of entertainment. Heck, even A1GP is only £30.
These are some of the best drivers in the world and the event was all afternoon and then some. Less than a fill up. And next to nothing compared to a track day or a race entry wink

Does not really matter now.......

Adrian W

15,503 posts

257 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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I wonder if you can park at the birdsnest stadium, or if the Chinese will do everything possible to stop you getting there!