Part-timer missing out on Bank holiday Mondays...unfair?
Part-timer missing out on Bank holiday Mondays...unfair?
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hi-de-hi

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254 posts

241 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Hi PH'ers

This is something that's beginning to bug me no end, considering we are about to embark on a number of bank holiday Mondaysmad...

I work part-time for a local GP practice and because Mondays are not a normal working day for me I (and one other employee in the practice) receive no benefit from any bank holiday Mondays, nor are we given the opportunity to take any additional days during the year. If this applied to all the part-timers within the practice then of course there wouldn't be an issue, but for those part-timers who normally work a Monday, they do of course benefit from a few extra days annual leave per year. I've not personally come across this in any of the workplaces where I've been employed, so I don't know whether this is 'normal' practise, hence why I put the question to the PH collective.

Am I just making a mountain out of a molehill (and I should just be b****y grateful to have a job in the firstplace!), or is this an issue I could take up with the powers that be?

Any thoughts?




jamesuk28

2,176 posts

284 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Sounds fair to me, if you don't work on Mondays I can't see why you would get a day off in leiu.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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There is no obligation to give you Public Holidays off. Merely a pro-rata of the minimum statutory entitlement. You can take those hours off when you and your employer agree you can.

So no.

Graham

16,381 posts

315 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Sorry but yep seems fair to me... as you said just be thankful that

a) you've got a job
b) you dont have to work any mondays !!!


it could be even worse you could work somewhere that considers bank holidays a normal working day so you dont get them and have to work them



Edited by Graham on Thursday 16th April 14:30

drinks

120 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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All the info you require is here
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/W...
Public and bank holidays

You do not have a statutory right to paid leave on bank and public holidays. If your employer gives paid leave on a bank or public holiday, this can count towards your minimum holiday entitlement. There are eight permanent bank and public holidays in England and Wales (nine in Scotland and ten in Northern Ireland).

If you work on a bank or public holiday, there is no automatic right to an enhanced pay rate. What you get paid depends on your contract of employment.

If you are part time and your employer gives workers additional time off on bank holidays, this should be given pro rata to you as well, even if the bank holiday does not fall on your usual work day.

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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hi-de-hi said:
Hi PH'ers

This is something that's beginning to bug me no end, considering we are about to embark on a number of bank holiday Mondaysmad...

I work part-time for a local GP practice and because Mondays are not a normal working day for me I (and one other employee in the practice) receive no benefit from any bank holiday Mondays, nor are we given the opportunity to take any additional days during the year. If this applied to all the part-timers within the practice then of course there wouldn't be an issue, but for those part-timers who normally work a Monday, they do of course benefit from a few extra days annual leave per year. I've not personally come across this in any of the workplaces where I've been employed, so I don't know whether this is 'normal' practise, hence why I put the question to the PH collective.

Am I just making a mountain out of a molehill (and I should just be b****y grateful to have a job in the firstplace!), or is this an issue I could take up with the powers that be?

Any thoughts?
So in a nutshell you want to effectively be paid for a day's work you did not complete but also you are not even contracted to work on anyway?

I'd keep this one to yourself...

You have answered your own question. Those who are contracted for working on a Monday are paid if the employer decides there is no work for them that day, or if it is in their contract to have that Bank Holiday off paid.

I would suggest that if you want to be paid for the Bank Holidays on a Monday you also ask if you can get your hours changed to include Mondays. However to get the benefit of the extra 4 days off, you would have to of course work the other 48 Mondays of the year like the rest of the staff.



GT03ROB

14,036 posts

252 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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Sounds perfectly fair to me.

When I'm in the UK I work 9 day fortnights, get every other Friday off. If a bank holiday falls on that Friday, like Good Friday this year, we don't get paid or any other day off in lieu.

hi-de-hi

Original Poster:

254 posts

241 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I wasn't looking to be paid for the days, just perhaps an extra day off in lieu. Can't change my hours to a Monday because all the part-timers 'fight' for a Monday because of the BH's. Oh well, thanks for the comments. Nuff said.

Edited by hi-de-hi on Thursday 16th April 18:20

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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hi-de-hi said:
I wasn't looking to be paid for the days, just perhaps an extra day off in lieu. Can't change my hours to a Monday because all the part-timers 'fight' for a Monday because of the BH's. Oh well, thanks for the comments. Nuff said.

Edited by hi-de-hi on Thursday 16th April 18:20
So you weren't wanting to be paid for the Monday, you wanted to have another day off instead and get paid for that one...?

Do you not see that that is exactly the same? wink

If you think about it, your concept does not make common sense. It would mean that I could work part time, maybe one day a week. Out of 52 weeks I would get 5 statutory holiday days and if I got every one of the bank holiday days paid in full in lieu - thats an extra eight, I would actually be getting paid to stay at home for a full 25% of my employment...

Tuscanless Ali

2,187 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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From April you get 5.6 weeks holiday a year, pro rata for part timers, which is your 4 weeks + 8 bank holidays.

So, if you only work say 3 days you will get 16.8 days a year, an extra 4.8 days which is 3/5 of the bank holiday entitlement. smile




V_tricky

834 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I don't work Monday's, but my employer (currently employing around 8500 staff in the UK) gives a bank holiday entitlement to ensure that part time staff are all treated equally, regardless of whether they normally work the Monday or not.