What are the odds this thing crashed due to the tyres!?

[chrisk]

Why would you run an elise and put those on the back wheels?

Is this usual practise?

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Edited by chrisk on Friday 17th April 19:35

[Uncle John]

Might be being dumb but put what on the back wheels?

Tyres?

[eowen]

What do you mean?

[Uncle John]

What is on the back wheels?

[Scuffers]

chassis is toast, unless it's really cheap, it's parts only.

[NathanE]

Perilli P6000's on the back of a 111R... wtf :/

Chassis is ruined.

Looks like someone started repairs though because if you look at some of the pictures you can see a brand new (shiney, no rust at all) toe link on the rear of the car...

Edited by NathanE on Friday 17th April 20:02

[fluffnik]

Uncle John said:

What is on the back wheels?

Ditchfinder6000?

[Alfa_75_Steve]

eowen said:

What do you mean?

He's conforming with the current PH 'sheep' view on Pirelli P6000s, which are a perfectly good tyre and never given me any issues in over 100k miles of running on them.

Only someone once called them 'ditchfinders' and now it's considered to be 'cool' to repeat this every time they're mentioned.

It's getting a tad boring now, in a 335d <mapped> kind of a way.

[Uncle John]

I'm new to Lotus so are these tyres a no no or are you taking the mick?

[Uncle John]

Thanks steve.

Nothing wrong with P6000's IMO.

[chrisk]

I've had them on a couple of cars and the grip and handling were a tad shocking, they loved to tramline too. However, service life was excellent. I think they suit certain cars compared to others.

My point is I've read a few threads about Elises being sensitive to tyre choice and it being light weight needs something soft (?), I wouldn't have thought they would be suitable for an Elise? If you have a sports car put some sports tyres on it, P6000s are more for motorway cruisers...?

[Uncle John]

I've had P6000 on an Alfa 33 16v and Mk1 MR2 and found them very good.

Perhaps the driver ran out of talent?

[bogie]

fine for my Volvo diesel cruiser, but not what you put onthe back of an Elise with different tyres on teh front ....not if you want to stay going forwards anyway LOL

[snuffle]

Ive driven a 111s with them on the rear and some cheap cruddy tyres on the front, no real probs
but im no expert

[Janitor]

Seller is optimistic... by requiring a £200 deposit he's anticipating it will top that

[snuffle]

ffs id buy em all week long at £200 money could still be made at much higher IMO

[RonnieP]

Nope crash not due to the tyres, it was driver error, unless there was diesel on the road

[TIPPER]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

eowen said:

What do you mean?

He's conforming with the current PH 'sheep' view on Pirelli P6000s, which are a perfectly good tyre and never given me any issues in over 100k miles of running on them.

Only someone once called them 'ditchfinders' and now it's considered to be 'cool' to repeat this every time they're mentioned.

It's getting a tad boring now, in a 335d <mapped> kind of a way.

In the context of this particular forum (Elise/Exige) then the comments re the Pirellis are valid. The Elise is particularly tyre sensitive and tyres that perform adequately on heavy saloons are not suitable. I wouldn't worry about having them on the Alfa 156 but I wouldn't put them on my 740(ish)kg mid engine/rear drive Elise.

[eowen]

bks. My money is on an excess of physics over driving capability.

[TIPPER]

eowen said:

bks. My money is on an excess of physics over driving capability.

I'm not disputing that, merely observing that there are far more suitable tyres than the P6000 for the Elise.