E60 530d swirl flaps warranty claims ??
E60 530d swirl flaps warranty claims ??
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stevegarry0

Original Poster:

17 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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As my swirl flaps have fell off yesterday & this seems a common fault on this engine, has any one had any joy from bmw on a good will claim ???

Ranger 6

7,705 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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I assume you've seen the 100+ page thread on BMWland.co.uk about these lovely things? Plenty of info about who has had what as a gesture to repair these things.

...do I feel a Watchdog moment coming on?

stevegarry0

Original Poster:

17 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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hi...had a look seems i should have just removed them... cant see any one thats tryed for good will claim... My car has gone to my local main dealer today & thay said thay will take a look then go for a good wil claim... fingers crossed...

Gallen

2,166 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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I had my swirl flaps removed months ago. Too bigger risk IMO leaving them there.

I wish you all the best of luck with your claim.

stevegarry0

Original Poster:

17 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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cheers Gallan.. did ur car run any different or smoke when removed.??

Gallen

2,166 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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...I have a 51 reg 530D Sport Auto/Tip. My father owned this car from new and has now passed it to myself, (he opted for a new "smaller" 320i Sport Coupe...)

It started to missfire one day (which was a simple electric loose plug connection - thank god!). However, as I was researching the missfire on the forums I found out about the BMW Diesel (AUTO) swirl flap issues.

(Interestingly, I belive that it is only the AUTO's that have these flaps).

I opted to have my (trusted) garage remove them and re-assemble the manifold.

I did buy a blanking kit (£100 ish), but we didn't fit the blanks - We simply removed the butterflies etc and re-assembled the manifold as original. There was no problem with the blanking components, it just did not appear beneficial to use them on inspection of the manifold.

  • I still have the kit which is unused if you or anybody are interested

Anyway, after reading the worrying posts and noticing the amount of failures, I thought that I would rather risk having to spend £500 on a new-revised manifold (or fit a new manifold from a Manual vehicle) should the removal of the flaps from original manifold not work.

Also, I gain peace of mind as opposed to running the risk of catastrophic total engine failure - This was not an option.

- The car drives the same.
- The car smells the same, and as far as smoke goes I can not see a difference!
- Also MPG has not been comprimised, to my knowledge!

It went straight through the MOT (always has!) and so no emissions probs experienced.

I have heard questions raised regardiong a loss of low down torque with swirl flaps removed - I did not notice ANY difference and as I say, we ordered and specced the car and have owned & driven it from Day 1.

Keep us posted,

Best regards,

Gallen

Edited by Gallen on Tuesday 21st April 17:36

chrisf-1

8 posts

208 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Hi Gallen I am a new member and very interested in your blanking kit as I intend to do the job on Thursday 18th June is it still available and how much where are you situated, I cannot email you yet as I have only just joined but you should be able to email me thanks Chris

Edited by chrisf-1 on Sunday 14th June 19:37

< FORZA WEST

1,038 posts

239 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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We now offer a swirl flap removal service for all diesel engine 2000 - 2005.
Flaps are replaced with an purpose aluminium blanking piece.

Gallen

2,166 posts

285 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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...We never used the blanking plates I bought and I sold them on here...
We just removed all the parts from the manifold and re-assembled.

philip600

216 posts

204 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Hi,
Are these swirl flaps fitted to all BMW 3.0d engines & were they only used on engines up to a certain year ?
Reason I ask is that I have a Dec 05 X5 3.0d auto & have read on various forums of the problems they cause but I aren't sure if mine has them or not.
Thanks, Phil.

zip929

670 posts

207 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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This should help. Or like me it might make you spend £110 on a set of blanking plates.
£110 or 9k for a new engine...which do you prefer.

http://www.pmwltd.co.uk/swirl_flaps.pdf

Gallen

2,166 posts

285 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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AFAIK its the 2.0 Diesel and 3.0 Diesel Automatics.

I have heard you can do any of the following:

- Fit an Inlet manifold from a Manual car

- Fit a later "rivised" manifold for your vehicle from BMW
(although BMW say there was never a problem in the first place... go figure)

- Remove swirl flaps yourself

- Fit blanking plates

Edited by Gallen on Friday 4th December 09:39

mikey-r

408 posts

227 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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I had mine removed by PMW - all in I think it cost a nad's over £200.

No difference in performance that I can detect - just something less to worry about! wink

R170Merc

11 posts

213 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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Howard BMW in Redruth, Cornwall, will remove the swirl flaps for £80 plus vat, mine are being done on thursday in my 530d.

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Sunday 6th December 2009
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Just remove the flaps and replace with blanking plates.

That is the best way.

rb51

93 posts

214 months

Sunday 6th December 2009
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Why would u throw away money buying blanking kits when all you have to do is remove the metal plate from the spindle(x6) then put the shaft back in as normal,then connect up the linkage but remove the vacuum unit or block off the pipe going into it, then put 2 or 3 cable ties around the linkages to hold the spindles in place because without this the boost pressure will pop em out i have done this my self on a 320d and a 530d never had a problem after doing it, performance, smoke , fuel wise i saw no difference.its so worth doing for piece of mind.

farbbm

335 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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I'm just after confimration, are we saying that this issue only affects diesel auotmatic BMW's?
I currently own a 2005 525d with 44000 miles on the clock, is it regarded as one which could experience this problem?

Ranger 6

7,705 posts

279 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Ranger 6 said:
I assume you've seen the 100+ page thread on BMWland.co.uk ....

BMWJim

11 posts

213 months

Thursday 10th December 2009
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Just had my swirl flaps removed, car running as sweet as a nut, no blanking kit required, and the mechanic removed swirl flaps last week from a manual car, it seems swirl flaps are present in auto and manual cars.

Gallen

2,166 posts

285 months

Thursday 10th December 2009
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BMWJim said:
Just had my swirl flaps removed, car running as sweet as a nut, no blanking kit required, and the mechanic removed swirl flaps last week from a manual car, it seems swirl flaps are present in auto and manual cars.
Thanks for sharing - I thought it was just Auto - I stand corrected smile