New Teams Coming to F1?
Discussion
After the information on Lola last week and the promise of a US based team entering in 2010, Dave Richards seems to have thrown his hat into the ring:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23042009/58/richards...
Richards is chairman of British sportscar maker Aston Martin, majority owned by Kuwait's Investment Dar, as well as engineering company Prodrive. He would not confirm what name his entry might adopt.
We are very serious about entering Formula One in 2010 providing that it is commercially viable and there is the potential to be fully competitive," Richards said. "On the commercial side we would want a situation where the sort of budget you would need to be competitive would be sensible," he added
What are the chances do you reckon? Are these possible new teams are turning point for the sport or is it all smoke and mirrors for a bit more publictiy for the sport?
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23042009/58/richards...
Richards is chairman of British sportscar maker Aston Martin, majority owned by Kuwait's Investment Dar, as well as engineering company Prodrive. He would not confirm what name his entry might adopt.
We are very serious about entering Formula One in 2010 providing that it is commercially viable and there is the potential to be fully competitive," Richards said. "On the commercial side we would want a situation where the sort of budget you would need to be competitive would be sensible," he added
What are the chances do you reckon? Are these possible new teams are turning point for the sport or is it all smoke and mirrors for a bit more publictiy for the sport?
USGP (to give it it's new, updtaed non-Berni annoying title) may nit be there at all. Their tech partners in Spain may be in some financial difficuties - they seem to have pulled out of Le MAns this year.
As for Lola & Aston - I have this feeling that they may be part of the same thing. Lola workswith Aston at Le Mans, for example.
Still any new team is welcome in my book. Might still be cheaper to buy, say, Renault's operation by the end of this year.
Or whatever's left of McLaren by the time the FIA & Whitmarsh have finsihed with it.
As for Lola & Aston - I have this feeling that they may be part of the same thing. Lola workswith Aston at Le Mans, for example.
Still any new team is welcome in my book. Might still be cheaper to buy, say, Renault's operation by the end of this year.
Or whatever's left of McLaren by the time the FIA & Whitmarsh have finsihed with it.
german tony said:
USGP (to give it it's new, updtaed non-Berni annoying title) may nit be there at all. Their tech partners in Spain may be in some financial difficuties - they seem to have pulled out of Le MAns this year.
As for Lola & Aston - I have this feeling that they may be part of the same thing. Lola workswith Aston at Le Mans, for example.
Still any new team is welcome in my book. Might still be cheaper to buy, say, Renault's operation by the end of this year.
Or whatever's left of McLaren by the time the FIA & Whitmarsh have finsihed with it.
I don't think Renault are going anywhere soon, they've invested heavily very recently at their Oxford F1 site.As for Lola & Aston - I have this feeling that they may be part of the same thing. Lola workswith Aston at Le Mans, for example.
Still any new team is welcome in my book. Might still be cheaper to buy, say, Renault's operation by the end of this year.
Or whatever's left of McLaren by the time the FIA & Whitmarsh have finsihed with it.
But the more the better!
Aston Martin and Lola on the grid would be fantastic.
I still don't see how this £30m cap can work though.
How can the technical side be valued?
The unlimited budget teams (say £300m) have technical restraints to adhere to.
The £30m capped teams don't have those restraints - so can they use permanently adjustable aero, no power cap? etc? I think it's impossible to level the playing field to any degree whatsoever when a budget gap can be in excess of £250m.
Or am I reading this all wrong?
I still don't see how this £30m cap can work though.
How can the technical side be valued?
The unlimited budget teams (say £300m) have technical restraints to adhere to.
The £30m capped teams don't have those restraints - so can they use permanently adjustable aero, no power cap? etc? I think it's impossible to level the playing field to any degree whatsoever when a budget gap can be in excess of £250m.
Or am I reading this all wrong?
paulrockliffe said:
Couldn't someone just buy some 2008 F1 cars for a few million, then spend a few million making that faster, then go racing? Or would the support budget required for those cars be prohibitive? I suppose it would be a pain if you crashed as well!
Go on Wikipedia and look-up the 'Life' F1 team.... they tried this and read what happened.Linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_(Formula_One_tea...
It probably wont be this bad but still a funny read.
Maybe I'm along, but my heart says that Aston would be wrong coming to F1. I think their brand is best suited to sports and GT racing.
I think the opportunity for some more independents is better for the sport long-term, rather than relying on manufacturers to always bankroll teams. It's worked for Williams all these years, though more recent years have been hard.
Lola and the US team YES,
Prodrive YES
- Aston NO!
I think the opportunity for some more independents is better for the sport long-term, rather than relying on manufacturers to always bankroll teams. It's worked for Williams all these years, though more recent years have been hard.
Lola and the US team YES,
Prodrive YES
- Aston NO!How can F1 work on US £30 million a year. Drivers salaries, top engineers are taking home well over $ 500,000 a year and what about travelling costs and equipment / staff. Most teams need 10-12 marketing people at larger races and a number of teams today take 90 people to each race including motorhome staff, mechanics, tactical specialists, tyremen, engineers, support teams etc.
It is a load of total CR*P to talk about smaller salaries. If you want that watch F3....run for peanuts and nobody goes to the races nor does it get any TV coverage.
It is a load of total CR*P to talk about smaller salaries. If you want that watch F3....run for peanuts and nobody goes to the races nor does it get any TV coverage.
Prodrive-Aston Martin
USF1-Cosworth
Lola-Cosworth/Ferrari/BMW?
Sounds good. It might crowd up the circuit a bit more and produce more on-track action.
But I don't think 30M pounds is a realistic figure. That's Max Mosley's dream. According to Wikipedia, 2006 budget estimates placed the poorest team - Super Aguri - at $57M. Spyker was $120M and Toro Rosso was $75M. A more realistic figure would be US$80M or 55M pounds.
USF1-Cosworth
Lola-Cosworth/Ferrari/BMW?
Sounds good.
It might crowd up the circuit a bit more and produce more on-track action.But I don't think 30M pounds is a realistic figure. That's Max Mosley's dream. According to Wikipedia, 2006 budget estimates placed the poorest team - Super Aguri - at $57M. Spyker was $120M and Toro Rosso was $75M. A more realistic figure would be US$80M or 55M pounds.
Edited by Jungles on Friday 24th April 00:55
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