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GALLYTVR

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28 posts

267 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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CAN ANYONE GIVE ME ADVISE ON TRACK DAYS I HAVE DONE A FEW AT KNOCKHILL IN A SIERRA 2.0L BUT HOW WILL MY 4.2 CERB DO AND HOW CAN I PREPAIR THE CAR I WOULD LIKE TO DO CRAIL 1/4 MILE AS WELL ALL JUST FOR FUN TEMP GOES HOT WHEN WATING CAN I GET THE FANS TO COME ON EARLIER

joospeed

4,473 posts

300 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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you don't need to do anything to your cerbie for track days if you don't want, it already has adequate brakes and power for most situations (although be aware that novices tend to be harder on brakes because they don't know how fast teh car will go around corners) .. corners .. now there's an area for improvement though.

If you want to spend money then making it corner better is the best way to spend it, also benefits traction and stability and confidence and braking and sex life .. oops well maybe not the last bit

fans : you can add an extra relay if you like to make the smaller fan come on off a switch.

williamball

4,660 posts

304 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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You WILL need to upgrade the pads at knockhill and put some decent fluid in. Ferodo DS3000 worked fine on mine, plus maybe look at ducting some more air into the front wheel arches. KH will give cerb brakes a very hard time.

As to sprinting - whatever floats your boat I guess. But clutches are v.expensive and you won't do it many favours at crail.

WB

GALLYTVR

Original Poster:

28 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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joospeed said:
you don't need to do anything to your cerbie for track days if you don't want, it already has adequate brakes and power for most situations (although be aware that novices tend to be harder on brakes because they don't know how fast teh car will go around corners) .. corners .. now there's an area for improvement though.

If you want to spend money then making it corner better is the best way to spend it, also benefits traction and stability and confidence and braking and sex life .. oops well maybe not the last bit

fans : you can add an extra relay if you like to make the smaller fan come on off a switch.

GALLYTVR

Original Poster:

28 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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THANKS FOR YOUR INFO WHATS A GOOD SUSPENCION SET UP I WILL ONLY BE DOING A FEW TRACK DAYS A YEAR I HAVE GREEN SPRINGS ON THE REAR & BLUE ON THE FRONT CAN I CHANGE SPRINGS & SHOCKS JUST FOR TRACK DAYS OR IS THIS GOING TO FAR . WHAT IS THE BEST TYRES FOR TRACK USE AS I HAVE SPARE WHEELS I CAN PUT THEM ON

carl_w

10,365 posts

280 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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GALLYTVR said:
WHAT IS THE BEST TYRES FOR TRACK USE AS I HAVE SPARE WHEELS I CAN PUT THEM ON
Slicks are the best -- you can pick up a set of secondhand ones dirt cheap. However, there isn't room in a Cerb to put a spare set of wheels so you'll need a support vehicle. You certainly can't drive to and from the trackday on slicks

satman

2,455 posts

268 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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Gallytvr...why are you shouting???....

B19TOY

541 posts

306 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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carl_w said:

GALLYTVR said:
WHAT IS THE BEST TYRES FOR TRACK USE AS I HAVE SPARE WHEELS I CAN PUT THEM ON

Slicks are the best -- you can pick up a set of secondhand ones dirt cheap. However, there isn't room in a Cerb to put a spare set of wheels so you'll need a support vehicle. You certainly can't drive to and from the trackday on slicks


Depends on your wheel and tyre choice. I have carried up to 5 slicks, normally just 4 already on 17 inch TVR wheels, inside my Cerbera for track day use. Several times I have taken them plus tools and luggage as far as Spa, a 1000 mile round trip for me.

carl_w

10,365 posts

280 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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B19TOY said:
I have carried up to 5 slicks, normally just 4 already on 17 inch TVR wheels, inside my Cerbera for track day use.
Go on then -- what's the secret? Best I could manage was one in the boot and one on the front seat. I reckon I could've got another across the back seats, but no more.

j_s_g

6,177 posts

272 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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carl_w said:

B19TOY said:
I have carried up to 5 slicks, normally just 4 already on 17 inch TVR wheels, inside my Cerbera for track day use.

Go on then -- what's the secret? Best I could manage was one in the boot and one on the front seat. I reckon I could've got another across the back seats, but no more.

Likewise... I managed one in the boot, one in the passenger's seat, and one in the back between the seats. Couldn't quite make a fourth one fit.

900T-R

20,406 posts

279 months

Sunday 28th December 2003
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No experience with Cerbies, but I can second the Ferodo DS3000 motion. Simply the very best brake pads you can slap on a car that still sees some road use. They will wear out your discs very quickly, tho'.

Being a 'non-gassing' compound, Ferodo DS pads will work best on plain (i.e. non-slotted/grooved) brake discs. I have very good experiences with Brembo discs.

B19TOY

541 posts

306 months

Monday 29th December 2003
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carl_w said:

B19TOY said:
I have carried up to 5 slicks, normally just 4 already on 17 inch TVR wheels, inside my Cerbera for track day use.

Go on then -- what's the secret?


Spatial awareness and experimentation. No need to use the boot either.

Two flat on the rear central tunnel - you must have the inside of the wheels facing down. There is still visibility in the rear view mirror. One vertically behind the passanger seat as if it were a rear seat passenger. Again the back of the wheelmust face the inside of the car. The other two slot in the space. The fourth is in the front seat in the same plane as the rear seated tyre but rotated at a 45 degree angle to enable a view from the door mirror. The 5th slick when taken - without a wheel - went behind the driving seat but does restrict legroom.

In addition the trolley jack sits in the footwell.

Cotton covers protect the interior - like big tea bags made from old sheets - thanks to the missus. The wheels are all secured by a ratchet tie into the rear mounted harness eyes so that they do not move whilst cornering or more importantly do not squish the driver in case of an accident. Easy really.

GALLYTVR

Original Poster:

28 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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done track evening at knockhill tonight car went well very happy with the cornering and speed but had a little brakefade near the end dot 5 fluid needed i think

GCerbera

5,161 posts

273 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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GALLYTVR said:
done track evening at knockhill tonight car went well very happy with the cornering and speed but had a little brakefade near the end dot 5 fluid needed i think
What changes did you make in the end John?

Were you on standard brakes?

Glad you had a good time.

GALLYTVR

Original Poster:

28 posts

267 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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set of nitrons other than that standard

dannylt

1,906 posts

306 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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Set of nitrons is the best track day mod. What you need now are some proper brakes

joospeed

4,473 posts

300 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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you can't squeeze them onto the elise then Danny?

joo

GCerbera

5,161 posts

273 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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Anyone got any experiance with AVO's on track days?

Julian - what brakes would you recommend for track days and at what sort of cost?