women logic... does it exist?
Discussion
Or do you do a bloody good job of hiding it and then hoping for the best?
Bit of background first....
OH is having issues with an assignment that she is doing in the run up to her thesis for her masters (3rd degree, god knows why she stayed in so long, but that is her choice) and is having issues creating 3D modelling for the environmental aspect of the assignment with regards to rainforest growth and precipitation.
To make matters worse the 4 maps that she ordered off NASA and waited 2 weeks for, 2 have only cloud cover and nothing else.
So i get a phone call last night (23:30) and she is in a fluster and worrying, she wants to speak to her tutor urgently today about the situation and how it can be best adapted so she isnt going to be penalised (deadline next wednesday)... So using bloke logic the conversation goes:
OH : I will need to see the tutor to talk about the issues (goes through them all) and see what he recommends.
Me : Fine, easiest way would be to send a quick email now and ask him for a time slot tomorrow morning to disscuss some concerns you are having on the assignment due to the data recieved.
OH : but it takes 10 mins to start up the laptop, will just go round to his office and see if hes there.
ME : Errr... If hes like any normal lecturer, they dont just live in their office, send an email and he will read it in the morning when he gets in (like most normal) and reply to you, instead of you just hoping that he happens to be in the office at the exact moment you visit.
OH : But its late... So I will send it in the morning and organise a morning meeting with him then.
Me : If he is like any other busy person, the best time to catch him is by sending the night before, if you send it in the morning you are adding risks like he has already checked his email and gone onto work and not checking again til midday, the system may go down at uni, etc.. etc...
OH : b
h.. moan...b
h moan..... bit more b
hing... bit more moaning... Why cant i just do it in the morning?
Me : Fine be like that, but the amount of time you just spent on the call, you could have sent the email and be done with it, its your masters that you supposedly love doing, if you want to jepodise it on something like this, then that is up to you.
OH : Ok I will send it now...
Cut to this morning....
Got a text off her that she has just sent the email and that the computers at uni are crap as they took 45 mins to send it properly, her excuse is she needed the sleep...
WTF... The OH is on the verge of getting her 3rd degree, can speak umpteen languages and is really smart, so were the f
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??
Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
Bit of background first....
OH is having issues with an assignment that she is doing in the run up to her thesis for her masters (3rd degree, god knows why she stayed in so long, but that is her choice) and is having issues creating 3D modelling for the environmental aspect of the assignment with regards to rainforest growth and precipitation.
To make matters worse the 4 maps that she ordered off NASA and waited 2 weeks for, 2 have only cloud cover and nothing else.
So i get a phone call last night (23:30) and she is in a fluster and worrying, she wants to speak to her tutor urgently today about the situation and how it can be best adapted so she isnt going to be penalised (deadline next wednesday)... So using bloke logic the conversation goes:
OH : I will need to see the tutor to talk about the issues (goes through them all) and see what he recommends.
Me : Fine, easiest way would be to send a quick email now and ask him for a time slot tomorrow morning to disscuss some concerns you are having on the assignment due to the data recieved.
OH : but it takes 10 mins to start up the laptop, will just go round to his office and see if hes there.
ME : Errr... If hes like any normal lecturer, they dont just live in their office, send an email and he will read it in the morning when he gets in (like most normal) and reply to you, instead of you just hoping that he happens to be in the office at the exact moment you visit.
OH : But its late... So I will send it in the morning and organise a morning meeting with him then.
Me : If he is like any other busy person, the best time to catch him is by sending the night before, if you send it in the morning you are adding risks like he has already checked his email and gone onto work and not checking again til midday, the system may go down at uni, etc.. etc...
OH : b
h.. moan...b
h moan..... bit more b
hing... bit more moaning... Why cant i just do it in the morning?Me : Fine be like that, but the amount of time you just spent on the call, you could have sent the email and be done with it, its your masters that you supposedly love doing, if you want to jepodise it on something like this, then that is up to you.
OH : Ok I will send it now...
Cut to this morning....
Got a text off her that she has just sent the email and that the computers at uni are crap as they took 45 mins to send it properly, her excuse is she needed the sleep...
WTF... The OH is on the verge of getting her 3rd degree, can speak umpteen languages and is really smart, so were the f
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
rhinochopig said:
Something I learned years ago. Don't offer advice, just listen and sympathise. Only offer advice if you are specifically asked, and then only answer that specific question.
Unless you have further insight into how that particular woman's mind works. You can derive the "logic" from patterns of behaviour. It's not true logic but once you understand how women work, it's fine.The irony is that I am pretty good at guessing women's reactions to certain things based on my experiences (you could say I had a crash course
) so it's amusing that I am still single.Edited by ShadownINja on Thursday 30th April 10:51
sday12 said:
Because you suggested it.
Sometimes I cant help but think logically about these type of things, Im a Analyst Developer and its my job, so stuff like this is just basic logic when she needs something doing for her work i suggest different lines of approach.I learned long ago to keep my mouth shut when she is complaining about people, politics and the environment as it can and will cause an arguement, but when she is worried she is going to fail something and i can help, then its second nature.
I dont want to see her needing to do a resit or fail the masters completely.
Dupont666 said:
sday12 said:
Because you suggested it.
Sometimes I cant help but think logically about these type of things, Im a Analyst Developer and its my job, so stuff like this is just basic logic when she needs something doing for her work i suggest different lines of approach.I learned long ago to keep my mouth shut when she is complaining about people, politics and the environment as it can and will cause an arguement, but when she is worried she is going to fail something and i can help, then its second nature.
I dont want to see her needing to do a resit or fail the masters completely.

You are looking at it the wrong way. It isn't her or her logic.
She knows what she has to do and how to do it and also the best way. BUT she is concerned that there is a problem and because she cannot resolve it immediately it is weighing on her mind. She can't resolve it till at least tomorrow so in some respects is sticking her head in the sand.
If she doesn't think about it and leaves it till the last minute it isn't happening and can't go wrong and the outcome won't ever be bad.
However... it is happening so she needs to talk about it. By talking over and over every possibility to its logical conclusion it is comforting to some degree until the actual issue has been resolved.
In the way that we might perhaps b
h and moan about issues with the car... sticking handbrake... broken headlight... discuss how we can't afford it or can't fix it or could do this or that or scrappy this or garage that instead of just going... 'f
k it'... wallet out... job done.
She was after an ear
as is usually the case with them there womens 
She knows what she has to do and how to do it and also the best way. BUT she is concerned that there is a problem and because she cannot resolve it immediately it is weighing on her mind. She can't resolve it till at least tomorrow so in some respects is sticking her head in the sand.
If she doesn't think about it and leaves it till the last minute it isn't happening and can't go wrong and the outcome won't ever be bad.
However... it is happening so she needs to talk about it. By talking over and over every possibility to its logical conclusion it is comforting to some degree until the actual issue has been resolved.
In the way that we might perhaps b
h and moan about issues with the car... sticking handbrake... broken headlight... discuss how we can't afford it or can't fix it or could do this or that or scrappy this or garage that instead of just going... 'f
k it'... wallet out... job done.She was after an ear
as is usually the case with them there womens 
MudSkipper said:
But some of you blokes can be just as bad...I've had very similar conversations with the OH, given up and let him get on with it the way he wants too...but then I get to say I told you so the following day 
That is a no no for a bloke to say.... that means you get a grumpy OH and you get starved of sex until further notice which usually involves grovelling and an expensive meal.
No matter how much we want to say those particular words, it is a given that we must stay quiet.
Dupont666 said:
Or do you do a bloody good job of hiding it and then hoping for the best?
Bit of background first.....
.....WTF... The OH is on the verge of getting her 3rd degree, can speak umpteen languages and is really smart, so were the f
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??
Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
Bwwaaaaahaahahaha. And I thought my wife was the only person with this sort of 'logic'!!! She actually failed her nursing degree because of just the same 'logic', in that when I tried to offer help, advise, support, I was always accused of moaning, or giving her grief. Bit of background first.....
.....WTF... The OH is on the verge of getting her 3rd degree, can speak umpteen languages and is really smart, so were the f
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
Pointing out to her that leaving assignments until the night before the final deadline was NOT the best way to do things was met with ridicule or vehemence.
Suggesting she ask for assistance at uni on some things she was having trouble at was met with scorn: "why should I have to ask for help, nobody else does" ....despite her informing me that if you ask for extra tuition you are almost guaranteed to pass the assignments, (some glitch in the system).
When she did finally get kicked off the course for failing her final chance at an assignment she was full of excuses about how others had managed to stay in the course etc. I explained it doesn't MATTER about other people. SHE had failed, her life long dream of becoming a nurse was over, end of story.
But that is just one example of
Dupont666 said:
WTF... The OH is on the verge of getting her 3rd degree, can speak umpteen languages and is really smart, so were the f
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??
Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
Degrees are obviously not what they used to be.
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
gtdc said:
Dupont666 said:
WTF... The OH is on the verge of getting her 3rd degree, can speak umpteen languages and is really smart, so were the f
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??
Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
Degrees are obviously not what they used to be.
k does this type of idea enter the human brain and convince her its the best thing to do to help her out??Surely she is the minority?
And breathe....
She is only 3 years behind due to not liking the first degree, but since she was so far into it (6months from the end) she thought she might as well finish it.
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